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Regarding this so called judgment message..

by nowwhat? in

will our fearless leaders the gb call a news conference and invite all the major news networks and outlets and put their asses on the line and declare "you are all doomed!

" or will they have the rank and file do all the dirty work while they sit back in their gated corporate country club?!

ask any jdub that question!.

Listener

This is what they had to say about it in the July 2015 Watchtower-

God’s people will boldly declare a strong message of judgment that will affect all people. The message may be that Satan’s wicked world is about to be totally destroyed. The Bible compares this message to hailstones when it says: “Great hailstones, each about the weight of a talent, fell from heaven on the people, and the people blasphemed God because of the plague of hail, for the plague was unusually great.”—Revelation 16:21.

The weight of a talent is approximately 75 pounds and is said to be coming from heaven, not from JWs living on Earth. Also, the scripture makes no mention of a message. Hailstones of that size are going to do a huge amount of damage and deaths.

I wonder how long they have had this idea of a judgement message?

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Solicitors Visit Update

by pale.emperor in

in case you're not aware of my last two threads:.

the situation that arose in that my mother has been having secret access to my daughter and refusing to tell me how she is: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5012900121935872/am-overreacting-here.

the build up to my solicitors visit: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6284953638666240/solicitors-appontment-tomorrow-advice-appreciated.

Listener

Looks like time well spent.

The conditions Incognito has suggested are good. Although I don't know much about child custody cases, here in Australia we have a system where problems and issues are sorted out through an intermediary system first, in an attempt to avoid costly court battles.

If if you are to place conditions on your partner then they will generally not be accepted or seen as reasonable unless you agree to abid by the same restrictions yourself.

How would your partner feel if you were to take her to non JW religious activities? Often churches provide an after school story and play time once a week. It can be fun for the children but you may be totally against this idea yourself. It is also the wrong thing to do if you just intend to do this as a retaliation.

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Forum 18: RUSSIA: Justice Ministry seeks complete Jehovah's Witness ban

by OrphanCrow in

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russia: justice ministry seeks complete jehovah's witness ban.

by victoria arnold, forum 18. with no public announcement, russia's justice ministry lodged a suit at the supreme court today (15 march) to declare the jehovah's witness administrative centre "extremist", to liquidate it, and to ban its activity.

if successful, this would ban all jehovah's witness activity across russia.. russia's justice ministry has submitted a suit to the supreme court to declare the administrative centre of jehovah's witnesses an "extremist" organisation, order it liquidated, and ban its activity.

Listener

Thanks for clarifying the timing of that convention Corney. Still, the point was, it's so cheap and easy to hold a large assembly. It's a lie when the organisation says it needs x amount of Kingdom Halls and Assembly Halls and then burdens the flock with the cost and labor.

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Today's text caused a fight between myself and my "Still In" wife.

by NikL in

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she insisted on reading it to me and i just couldn't keep my freaking mouth shut.. see if you can tell why.... sunday, february 18.

they would go where the spirit inclined them to go.—ezek.

jesus has appointed the ‘faithful slave’ to be the only channel for dispensing spiritual food.

Listener

The most offensive part of that text is the claim that they are promoting cleanness in the congregation by obeying the Bible. This is not the case when dealing with pedophiles and shunning people is unchristian. Their blood policy kills people and leaves them with blood on their hands.

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Where some of the money is going - from AM III

by Listener in

there is a public talk given by tight pants tony on youtube titled "the real armageddon, why, when"his talk, as usual, doesn't make much sense.

he says armageddon is not a nuclear holocaust or an asteroid hitting the earth it's god's war against all the political nations of the earth.

he talks about a celestial phenomenon that will be phenomenal.

Listener

None of it makes any sense. Morris said that even if a person in such and such a religion appeared nice or even a monk, it didn't matter, they were going to be destroyed at the start of the GT by the Governments. The Governments have this thought put into their heads by God.

Somehow the JWs will survive because they go underground. So you've got to trust that the organisation is going to save you, not God, during the first part of the GT.

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Forum 18: RUSSIA: Justice Ministry seeks complete Jehovah's Witness ban

by OrphanCrow in

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russia: justice ministry seeks complete jehovah's witness ban.

by victoria arnold, forum 18. with no public announcement, russia's justice ministry lodged a suit at the supreme court today (15 march) to declare the jehovah's witness administrative centre "extremist", to liquidate it, and to ban its activity.

if successful, this would ban all jehovah's witness activity across russia.. russia's justice ministry has submitted a suit to the supreme court to declare the administrative centre of jehovah's witnesses an "extremist" organisation, order it liquidated, and ban its activity.

Listener

Here's a JW Youtube about a two day Russian Convention that took place after the ban was imposed. They had over 2,400 in attendance and about 41 were baptized - in the local water hole. Those shown getting baptized looked mostly young or old.

The Convention was held under the watchful eye of the Authorities situated in a white van and It was located on a Brother's own property and in the open air.

The irony of this is that it shows it is possible to hold these assemblies without the need for costly assembly halls.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmNmukrU_Jk

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Where some of the money is going - from AM III

by Listener in

there is a public talk given by tight pants tony on youtube titled "the real armageddon, why, when"his talk, as usual, doesn't make much sense.

he says armageddon is not a nuclear holocaust or an asteroid hitting the earth it's god's war against all the political nations of the earth.

he talks about a celestial phenomenon that will be phenomenal.

Listener

There is a public talk given by tight pants Tony on Youtube titled "The Real Armageddon, Why, When"

His talk, as usual, doesn't make much sense. He says Armageddon is not a nuclear holocaust or an asteroid hitting the earth It's God's war against all the political nations of the earth. He talks about a celestial phenomenon that will be phenomenal.

However, the sneaky little mouse has gone ahead and done something that he specifically says the Government Body members don't do. He's shared something with the audience that was not in print and still is not in print to this day.

Towards the end he states that the Great Tribulation will be like a cyclone, it's going to hit Christendom followed by the rest of false religion then a little bit of calm and they'll be coming after us.

At 45.00 he says "Jehovah's Witnesses will be the only ones ready for it. We are organized. We will go underground just like that and they're coming our way, that's when Jehovah steps in."

In order to go underground 'just like that' would require money and assets that cannot be identified to the Watchtower. It would also require a lot of planning and organization now, due to their belief that they think Armageddon is imminent. Since they have to do all this in secret, it's going to take a lot of detective work to uncover their activities.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehVdHQsT5o8&t=1105s

I think the talk is fairly old, he doesn't mention a Watchtower any later than 2003 and mentions the Twin Towers.

This is one huge, sneaky, secret society.

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Do JW's know what their FDS is doing with donations?

by The Fall Guy in

according to the official figures in this post 2 years ago - https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/217902/uk-congregations-jehovahs-witnesses?page=4 - the scottish congregations had a combined total of just over £1.845m in their bank accounts.

i wonder how much of that money was siphoned off by the org when their "recommendation" to congregations to hand over their surplus cash was issued.

isn't it tragic that all that money would barely cover the court's fine of $4000 per day which the cult has amassed so far in the padron case.

Listener

They've got a new video out about their fancy buildings/offices in Indonesia. They've got a number of remote translation offices there as well. There must be hundreds of remote translation offices worldwide.

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Smiddy`s Wedding Anniversary Today

by smiddy3 in

hi friends one and all i just thought i would let you know it`s our 57th wedding anniversary today .

and we are setting off this morning for 3 nights in eden nsw i think it has more to offer than the one in genesis.. with a bit { or a lot } of luck we will make our fortune .

have a good day everybody.

Listener

Congratulations and enjoy your time in Eden, it's a beautiful place.

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Apparently the giving of "judgement messages" is not a theoretical scenario

by GTSfromSY in

i remember when the (in)famous "bunker videos" were releases there was some non-witness exposure on a few sites and most of them commenting on how scary and very culty it sounded and all the idiotic wt apologist were quick to point out that it was "only theoretical", "it's possible it could happen like that" and other assorted flavors of steer manure.. well apparently not so because i just sat through the upcoming convention videos, and review footage of the last assembly, watch the last two months worth of "meetings" (*vomit*) and studied up on all the recent new wt releases and all the talk being throwing around now is all on some gog of magog this, judgement messages this, judgement messages that, "we're about to get persecuted!!!

; some of us are going to die; the nations are about to turn against us even in developed countries; blah blah blah.

even the recorded baptismal talk i heard from the last assembly had a speaker that was telling the suckers....er...i mean the baptismal candidates to be willing and expect possible death, and to a good number of young preteen people i may add (outrageous!!!).

Listener

Funny how the 'hard hitting message' is being directed by the organization to their followers, not to the world.

We could always help them along by making our own sandwich boards and wearing them in public.

What could we publicize?

"Millions now living will never die, stay alive VISIT JW org"

"Religion is a snare and a racket, choose the alternative before it's too late JW org"

"LBGT take heed, the Great Tribulation is imminent, visit JW org"

"Don't become a burnt hotdog, JW org"

"See us to arrange your Bunker for the imminent dooms day JW org"