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Circuit Overseer Meets with Elders and Ministerial Servants

by accesible in

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¿necesitan los demás bosquejos?.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1dvhuodkcahf6efu2xqxfk6o8ambqe5rm.

Listener

I must be listening to too many ads produced by the Government to reduce road accidents but I was under the impression that it was not safe to drive over .08 and for young inexperienced drivers, no alcohol would be a wise choice.

The science on how alcohol affects a person’s driving skills has evolved over the years. According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), although outward appearances may vary, virtually all drivers are impaired at .08 BAC. Laboratory and on-road research shows that the vast majority of drivers, even experienced drivers, are impaired at .08 BAC in critical driving tasks such as braking, steering, lane changing, judgment, and divided attention.
https://www.responsibility.org/stop-impaired-driving/strategies/swift-identification/08-bac-legal-limit/

As to the JW religion sticking their nose into whether a person is drunk or not and subjecting them to a JC is their business, that's what they do, they think they have the authority to do so.

My point was that they are more concerned with how drunk a person is rather than being concerned about safety.

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My Dissociation letter

by TJ Curioso in

hi to everyone!i was summoned to the judicial committee and went.

it was a respectful conversation from one side to the other.

in the end i handed the dissociation letter in hand and a binding to each of the elders, with an article i wrote on the subject, "are jehovah's witnesses a destructive sect?

Listener

Thank you for sharing that. Who would have thought a disassociation letter could be so moving? You demonstrate that you have a real and deep appreciation of Christ.

Why is it that the so called Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses have never been able to produce anything so meaningful? They've had opportunity after opportunity to do so. With a printing production worth millions, producing millions of publications, hundreds of video's and dozens of Broadcasts, nothing puts a match to your letter because of the real truth that it proclaims.

I'll go even further to say that I haven't read anything in one sitting that I've found so spiritually powerful other than Ray Franz's book.

Thank you again.

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Circuit Overseer Meets with Elders and Ministerial Servants

by accesible in

jw
friends

¿necesitan los demás bosquejos?.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1dvhuodkcahf6efu2xqxfk6o8ambqe5rm.

Listener

Sorry, my comments would not post.

These clowns have no depth of understanding about rights and wrongs.

It has been well proven that DUI puts the drivers life in danger as well as others. They are more concerned with what they consider to be biblical drunkenness rather than the more serious issue of putting others in danger.

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Circuit Overseer Meets with Elders and Ministerial Servants

by accesible in

jw
friends

¿necesitan los demás bosquejos?.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1dvhuodkcahf6efu2xqxfk6o8ambqe5rm.

Listener

Situation: A concerned publisher informs the elders that a brother went to a party and got drunk.
Two other publishers approach the elders to complain of hearing similar reports, and show the elders pictures from social media of the brother with a beer bottle in his hand. The elders also learn that he was pulled over by police and ticketed for driving while intoxicated
Questions: Should the elders immediately form a judicial committee? What should be done if a matter has not been clearly established but there are serious questions? (Pr 18:13, 17; ks10 5:38) If there are doubts about whether a matter merits judicial action, what should the elders do? (ks10 5:2) [Highlight the following factors: The accusation may, or may not, meet the Scriptural definition of drunkenness. Legal blood-alcohol limits vary depending on local laws and do not necessarily establish that a person was Biblically drunk. The elders have not yet spoken to the accused. Therefore, the body of elders should assign two brothers to investigate this serious accusation. If questions still remain after a thorough investigation, it is best to contact the Service Department for guidance

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But it's alright if we do it.

by Lost in the fog in

we were talking with a friend who is in a different area and they mentioned that their present kingdom hall building used to be a church before the brothers bought it cheaply and renovated it.

"of course," john then said, "it'll be dedicated to jehovah after all the work is done so even if everyone in the community still call it the old church, we'll know it is jehovah’s place of worship.

hadn't consciously thought about it until now, but isn't it hypocrisy to (re)dedicate a church and it becomes ok for the witnesses to use.

Listener

Good news Amicabl. The organisation has been failing people on their promises. This happened in another place in Australia. They sold a Hall saying it wasn't big enough (for the memorial) and they would rebuild. This was about five years ago. They have not rebuilt and now every JW from that Hall has to travel at least 20 km's extra.

How much of a inconvenience has this caused your wife and other members?

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But it's alright if we do it.

by Lost in the fog in

we were talking with a friend who is in a different area and they mentioned that their present kingdom hall building used to be a church before the brothers bought it cheaply and renovated it.

"of course," john then said, "it'll be dedicated to jehovah after all the work is done so even if everyone in the community still call it the old church, we'll know it is jehovah’s place of worship.

hadn't consciously thought about it until now, but isn't it hypocrisy to (re)dedicate a church and it becomes ok for the witnesses to use.

Listener

I don't understand why they find it necessary to dedicate a Kingdom Hall to God in the first place, it is just a material thing. Most JWs have a special bag that they only use for field service, why don't they have a formal dedication for that? Or for their carts?

I think it is highly inappropriate given that most Kingdom Halls have toilets and wash rooms inside, it's not very honor able to be dedicating these to God.

Its only a ritual that takes place to make publishers think it's all part of their worship to Jehovah and have them donate more.

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Here's PROOF that Charles Taze Russell Was NOT a Pennsylvania Freemason

by AndersonsInfo in

no, charles taze russell was not a pennsylvania freemason!.

this is the answer i received in a letter: .

"after a search of our records, we determined that the three russell's were not members of our organization.

Listener

Solaris, are you able to prove your claim regarding Russell. I know you say it's secret but if you know he was then you've just proven that claim as false. It's no longer secret once it's on public notice.

Has your research revealed which Governing Bod members today are Fremasons?

14

New light

by poopie in

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june at article now it's ok to say a greeting?.

Listener

Sparrowdown - Hmmm...Maybe I should start a thread with just "ug?" and see how many people respond.

You'd want to be careful, the Watchtower might come after you for copyright.

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March 2018 Broadcast - When quotes become rumors

by Listener in

this months broadcast is presented by losche and he discusses the need for trust in the fds.

the following is transcribed from the 12.30 mark.. satan also has the scheme to spread rumors about our brothers including the faithful slave.

the method of spreading rumors is not new.

Listener

Jehovah and Jesus trusts the imperfect Slave who cares for things to the best of his ability and with the best of motives.

Some of them may have the best of intentions and they've certainly got where they are by being groomed to develop what their motives should be.

The key word here is 'things'. People aren't things and that includes all the abused children.

They just don't seem to realize that those 'things' are the organization itself and that is a fundamental flaw in their thinking. The organization/fds do not have love for their followers as their underlying motivation.

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New light

by poopie in

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june at article now it's ok to say a greeting?.

Listener

The article in the June 2018 Watchtower, the following is the first paragraph, highlights are mine

THE POWER OF A GREETING
HELLO! How are you today?”
No doubt you have often used a greeting such as that. You may even have accompanied your greeting with a handshake or a hug. Customs and words used may differ from place to place, but the basics of a greeting are much the same. In fact, not offering or responding to a greeting may be taken as unloving or as evidence of bad manners.

Poopie, it's very unlikely that there will be any change in policy.