many have said that jesus never shunned anyone.
yet it seems that the apostle paul said to shun an unrepentant sinner, "stop keeping company" and "not even eating with such a man" 1co 5:9-12. it seems like shunning is what paul wanted us to do.
but honestly, it doesn't seem right to me.
JWfacts.com gives a good all round view on the matter.
It is to be expected that someone who is not complying with the membership rules of an organization should be stripped of his membership. The Watchtower goes to extremes from the very first step, dobbing people in through to the secret, unrecordable three committee JC then disfellowshipping even when someone has stopped sinning and shunning.
well i got to waste another day.
for the sake of still in family i attended the circuit assembly.
they say a joy shared is doubled, and a burden shared is halved.
Nothing new then? It must be so hard to stay awake but I guess that's what the organization wants. You can be more susceptible to suggestions if you're tired.
FedupJW, I don't know how you do it and thanks for the summary.
in perth western australia the watchtower have sold a kingom hall to hindus for $2 million aust dollars and they have a second one up for sale in the same area embleton .
The Halls are within 2.1 miles of each other and in an area that has been growing in the number of residents living there. Areas close to Capital Cities in Australia are becoming high density. What were once reasonable sized blocks with one house are being split into blocks with two or three residences as land becomes more valuable.
the video invitation for the 2018 convention is just creepy.
i thought it was some parody at first as it seems 'dark'.it begins with a young man being pushed whilst standing at his locker and the voice over says that 'in critical times we need courage more than ever'.
next, comes a clip of a male putting his hand on the shoulder of a female worker, the look she gives him would be enough to give him nightmares for the next year.
The video invitation for the 2018 Convention is just creepy. I thought it was some parody at first as it seems 'dark'.
It begins with a young man being pushed whilst standing at his locker and the voice over says that 'In critical times we need courage more than ever'. Next, comes a clip of a male putting his hand on the shoulder of a female worker, the look she gives him would be enough to give him nightmares for the next year.
There are so many more serious incidences that require real courage. For instance, many of the victims of child abuse within this organization.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnHWBta5Ds0
in some european countries, "church tax" is levied against members of certain religions.
how each country handles this differs depending on each country's tax laws.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/church_tax.
in germany, a member of a religion that has "public law" status pays an additional 8 or 9 percent on their tax assessments.
Thanks Thewonderofyou and Orphan Crow for the topic. I had no idea that the Government of some Countries tax individuals to give to religions.
looking for user names order in posts .
an honest look at the situation.
This link explains it. Useruser1914 is looking for a poster called 'order'.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5312610590261248/honest-look-situation?page=2
it’s been a while since i posted, but for those who remember, i came on here to get some information about jehovah’s witnesses because i have a nephew who was getting engaged to a girl who was a jehovah’s witness and, along with some other sites, i was recommended this one.. since then we’ve been busy with passover and jehovah’s witnesses have had something they call the memorial of christ’s death (i believe i have that right).
this clashing of the two observances apparently did more for this girl than anything else i ever saw in our months of conversations with her.. respectfully, jews do not proselytize.
these are people who, of their own desire, “join the tribe” after some years of study and practice--something this girl has just begun to do.
I'm sorry to see Rabbi Madge go but it seems that some of us have upset her.
She wrote this in her first post
I gather from my brother’s son’s girlfriend (we’ll call her “Shirley” here, but that’s not her real name--definitely not Jewish, of course, but nevertheless “Shirley” to protect her real Jehovah’s Witness identity) that the Witnesses are very much into this “the earliest manuscripts are the most dependable texts” argument because Shirley squeezes this comment into every conceivable conversation you can think about, from moments when we’re out buying lipstick together and trying to find the just the right color, to my trying to share the family secret to making the perfect Jewish brisket--the kind that melts in your mouth and my nephew just loves his auntie Midge over. (I don’t know how Shirley does it, either. But she squeezed that subject into both activities. She really did. It’s weird.)
I would love to have seen how Shirley was able to squeeze into every conversation, her views on early Bible manuscripts, even when discussing lipstick shades whilst standing in a store. This was also occurring whilst Rabbi Madge was divulging a secret Jewish family recipe.
Anyway, her writing is colourful but she should not have been surprised if some of us were not accepting her comments blindly.
Now that Shirley has much more time on her hands, Rabbi Madge might have a few more secret recipes to teach her and also plenty of other ideas and customs to aid in converting her.
i think this has somewhat been touched on with regard to wt protecting the abuser, but it didn't make too much sense to me until i watch kimmy's video from two hours ago.
she talks about coc on amazon until minute two, so skip if you like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3n7fdwug6k.
Don't worry about it Wakanda. The important link is there, which is to JW victims. Thanks for posting.
Is the Organisation really going to stop recording information because they do not have permission to do so? It's a dilemma for them
They say that God's law is above human law. Their responsibility is to keep the Congregation clean and to Shepherd the Flock. They cannot do this properly and in some cases, not at all, if they don't keep records. They could then use theocratic warfare in not disclosing the fact so hat they are not punished for breaking the law.
The problem is, they can be easily exposed for doing this.
it’s been a while since i posted, but for those who remember, i came on here to get some information about jehovah’s witnesses because i have a nephew who was getting engaged to a girl who was a jehovah’s witness and, along with some other sites, i was recommended this one.. since then we’ve been busy with passover and jehovah’s witnesses have had something they call the memorial of christ’s death (i believe i have that right).
this clashing of the two observances apparently did more for this girl than anything else i ever saw in our months of conversations with her.. respectfully, jews do not proselytize.
these are people who, of their own desire, “join the tribe” after some years of study and practice--something this girl has just begun to do.
Judaism is not like this at all. Judaism is not based on what you believe but on who you are and what you do
What you just wrote is a belief right there.
Why do you think MOST posters are feeling bad from what you are writing?
in some european countries, "church tax" is levied against members of certain religions.
how each country handles this differs depending on each country's tax laws.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/church_tax.
in germany, a member of a religion that has "public law" status pays an additional 8 or 9 percent on their tax assessments.
Is the amount payable 8 or 9% of an individual's net income or of the amount of tax payable for that year?
