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OK, I know this forum isn't exactly friends with JWSurvey, BUT...
by Vidiot in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
...this, imo, is just too good to pass up:.

https://jwsurvey.org/news/watch-tower-sues-facebook-mark-zuckerberg-for-contempt-of-court-demands-daily-fine.

this bit especially made me laugh:.
Listener

"We have never lost a case against apostates. They never won even a motion. And so you see the line that Jehovah has apparently drawn: That the wicked or evil slave will not be able to beat the faithful slave to that degree. Because even though there have been hundreds of these motions and cases brought; not one has prevailed.” Brumley
That was an interesting claim made by a JW lawyer and Elder in 1991.
So what if they haven't lost a case against 'apostates', it has not in the least prevented ttatt from spreading.
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7 Jehovah’s Witnesses Brutally Tortured in Russia
by Drearyweather in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://jw-russia.org/en/news/19021923-622.html.

at least seven of jehovah’s witnesses were subjected to torture—electric shocks, suffocation, and cruel beatings—on the first floor of the russian investigative committee’s building at ul.

ostrovskogo, d. 47, in surgut.
Listener

Therefore, we will pursue all available legal remedies, both domestic and international, for this crime.
Ultimately, we know that Jehovah has seen the persecution of our brothers in Russia and will act as their ‘helper and rescuer.’—Psalm 70:5.
https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/russia/Jehovahs-Witnesses-Tortured-in-Surgut-Russia/
JW org has posted a news item about the incident. Their response is interesting. They intend to fight this legally. So much for claiming to operate according to bible principles when there is no precedent for doing this in the bible.
They are leaving it up to God to be their 'helper and rescuer'. No mention is made how they intend to give them financial aid or assistance to get JWs out of Russia.
Matthew 10:23 When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another.
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7 Jehovah’s Witnesses Brutally Tortured in Russia
by Drearyweather in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://jw-russia.org/en/news/19021923-622.html.

at least seven of jehovah’s witnesses were subjected to torture—electric shocks, suffocation, and cruel beatings—on the first floor of the russian investigative committee’s building at ul.

ostrovskogo, d. 47, in surgut.
Listener

The Governing Body should be doing all it can to prevent this from happening. Instead, they get millions to troll the Russian Government by inundating them with letters written in languages that they can't even read. Then they announce Russia as being the King of the North, announcing it as not being their own decision but having done so by invoking God through prayer.
I can see the big smile of satisfaction on Sandersons face.
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Smiddys wedding anniversary
by smiddy3 in
1. social
2. family
today feb.18 2019 is the smiddy`s 58th wedding anniversary..
Listener

What did you do to celebrate Smiddy?
My husband and I just give each other small gifts, other than doing something nice like going out for tea or making a special meal.
We find it easier to spoil each other throughout the year when we see something that we really like or want to do (like a holiday).
Next month is our 30th so we'll do something a bit more special. The kids are doing something for us and we will stay at a top hotel in a club room with breakfast, afternoon tea and evening cocktails included.
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Watchtower Trolleys With Added Bling
by cofty in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
my wife and i were in edinburgh on saturday (did a ghost tour) and around dusk we passed two trolleys on the high street — aka 'the royal mile' — that both had two rows of led lights under the little shelves.

has anybody else seen this or is it a local innovation?

i'm happy to report their pimped-up trolleys were attracting no attention as usual.
Listener

John.prestor, they sure love their coffee. It's a wonder that they don't have pull out cup holders on their trolleys, better yet, they could have a coffee machine added. A coffee grinder would go a long way to bring attention to themselves with all that racket going on.
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Smiddys wedding anniversary
by smiddy3 in
1. social
2. family
today feb.18 2019 is the smiddy`s 58th wedding anniversary..
Listener

That's wonderful Smiddy3 that you have been together with the love of your life for 58 years.
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Beautiful Circularity
by Euphemism in
1. watchtower
2. bible
just ran across this beautiful example of circular reasoning from the watchtower.w85 12/1 31. .

questions from readers.

was the apostle paul part of the christian governing body?.
Listener

His inspired writings show that Paul sometimes settled issues himself. That is as might be expected back then with one of the governing body who was far away from the central body and faced with slow means of communication.

Either the so called Governing Body work together or act independently of each other, the GB want it both ways.
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''Special Letter'' to be Read In Canada Week of Feb 3,2019
by Beth Sarim in
1. jw
2. experiences
i have just been informed that there is a 'special letter' to be read at the meetings week of feb 3,2019 in canada.

anybody heard of this!!

just a heads-up!
Listener

Thanks for the update acluetofindtheuser.
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Great Announcement
by Tiana in
1. jw
2. experiences
am a newcomer.

had a starnge metting in local news last night.. check it out.

actual info starts at 50;12. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plxdjs13l0k.
Listener

@51.41 he says "you've heard it a thousand times"

Enough said.
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2018 BRANCH ORGANIZATION Manuel Says The members of the Governing Body do not regard themselves as the leaders of Jehovah's people.
by Fabian in
1. watchtower
2. bible
thanks to atlantis, this statement is mentioned on chapter 1 paragraph 1 in the middle.

but i like how the statement says members but the sentence right before has the governing body dudes in a collective whole like voltron here is the paragraph in whole.

1. governing body: the governing body of jehovah's witnesses is made up of brothers who are anointed servants of jehovah god.
Listener

Great pick up Fabian.
With your first point, this supports how they view themselves. As individual GB members, they consider themselves to be 'domestics' like all other JWs and being instructed by the FDS. As a collective group of GB members coming together, they form the FDS. They do not state that the FDS is not the leader.
As for the term 'Governing Body', a Government has all authority in regards to leadership.