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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Listener

Slimboyfat - I commented on it on this thread about a month ago

Unfortunately the strain of all this and the disclosures regarding someone called Marko, made by the OP - Newly Enlightened/Kim Mikey seems to have been too much for them.
In the past day they have made a threat to Winston/Watchtower Examination on his Youtube Chanel and uploaded a rant about him on their own Youtube for what may have been a simple misunderstanding.
They wrote this to Winston on his Youtube -
"Thank you for the insult and using our video out of context. Now you have given us a good reason to bring up your arrest and newspaper articles for your pyramid scheme. Did you think I had forgotten that?"
It's so sad that they have gone and picked on someone who is not well and recently lost his mother.
There are some serious cracks showing.

I see Winston has just started posting again three days ago with a video titled "Watchtower's big blunder?" He calmly and respectfully explains the misunderstanding. It took Winston a month to respond to the threat which means that he puts a lot of heartfelt consideration into what he says rather than just jumping into uploading a nasty response.

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Watchtower Jul 22 - Jesus directed the GB on how to deal with Covid

by Listener in

14 jesus provides wise direction in times of crisis.

the benefits of that direction were evident when the covid-19 pandemic broke out.

while many in the world were uncertain about what course to take, jesus made sure that we received clear guidance to keep us safe.

Listener

Inbetween, thanks for the correction

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Here's a link to the July, 2022 Watchtower article

https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-july-2022/Support-Our-Overseer-Jesus/

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Watchtower Jul 22 - Jesus directed the GB on how to deal with Covid

by Listener in

14 jesus provides wise direction in times of crisis.

the benefits of that direction were evident when the covid-19 pandemic broke out.

while many in the world were uncertain about what course to take, jesus made sure that we received clear guidance to keep us safe.

Listener

14 Jesus provides wise direction in times of crisis. The benefits of that direction were evident when the COVID-19 pandemic broke out. While many in the world were uncertain about what course to take, Jesus made sure that we received clear guidance to keep us safe. We were encouraged to wear face coverings when out in public and to practice physical distancing. The elders were reminded to maintain regular contact with all in the congregation and to be aware of their physical and spiritual needs. (Isa. 32:1, 2) We received additional direction and encouragement by means of Governing Body updates.
14 Jesus provides wise direction in times of crisis. The benefits of that direction were evident when the COVID-19 pandemic broke out. While many in the world were uncertain about what course to take, Jesus made sure that we received clear guidance to keep us safe. We were encouraged to wear face coverings when out in public and to practice physical distancing. The elders were reminded to maintain regular contact with all in the congregation and to be aware of their physical and spiritual needs. (Isa. 32:1, 2) We received additional direction and encouragement by means of Governing Body updates.

The claim is that Jesus gave them clear direction, including direction to keep them safe. All the direction that was given was wise.

There's no question that the GB provided direction in regards to the Kingdom Halls and witnessing. Claiming that it came from Jesus without any evidence whatsoever. In fact, there is evidence that proves it came from elsewhere.

The wearing of facemasks and social distancing was directed through their great harlot, being WHO as part of the UN. Government mandates necessitated changes to the Door to Door work and meeting in the KHs.

They don't stand out as having results any different to other religions in general.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Listener

I've posted and upvoted a number of posts.

Getting death threats is not on, I wonder where that is coming from. It's criminal and serious.

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Mark Noumair latest video on persecution on jw.org

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/tbbxaasj6ki.

Listener

Is it new light that only the anointed are written in the scroll of life?

13.49 Mark states

Not one of those in Satan's organization is going to be written in the scroll of life. The only ones written in the scroll of life are those who rule with Jesus Christ

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Listener

Kim Silvio, I don't know of anyone who has been given such a hard time from Lloyd, except for his wife of course. Going from a strong supporter of his to finding out what he's really made of is tough enough in such a short time but the treatment he has given you is inexcusable.

You are the messenger but he wants to turn you into the wrongdoer.

I feel for what you are going through and thank you for being the whistleblower. It's making a huge dent into his agenda.

Can you imagine the amount of damage that he's done that we won't even get to hear about.

Thanks for making a difference.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Listener

I'm catching up on the Andrew Gold's review of the interviews with Lloyd Evans and Kim Silvio.

His level of paranoia has hit an all time high. IMHO it sounds dangerously high.

Andrew Gold points out that Lloyd Evans contacted him, asking him to do an interview. Lloyd Evans later claims in a discussion with him that it was the other way around.

Lloyd asked that he not interview Kim Silvio as he didn't want her to have the last say.

Andrew offers to interview both him and Kim at the same time. He said no, so then Andrew offers to allow Lloyd to feed him questions on the side during the interview with Kim.

Lloyd then responds 'very angrily' and accuses Andrew of duping him, the victim, into this (the initial interview) Lloyd claims that Andrew did this so he could use it as fodder to enable Kim Silvio, to bully him even more. This accusation was made even though Andrew knew nothing of Kim Silvio until all this came up and has only had dealings with Lloyd previously.

Lloyd also accused him of cheap tabloid sensationalism. He threatened to remove his patronage from him which was all of 1.50pounds a month, he has since done so. It's almost as if he is paying people for future favours.

Lloyd told him that Kim is a pathological liar and if she lies on his interview, which he said she would, he will add him to his lawsuit.

Imagine that, for years Lloyd has engaged and allowed a pathological liar on his team, including his website and on his Youtubes.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Listener

They say any publicity is good publicity, it would seem that is what he is going for.

Thanks Kim. The Youtube says it will premiere in 31 hours - on the 15th April (Friday)

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Listener

Kim, Lloyd said that he had been paying for prostitutes every few months for the past three of four years, however a couple of times you mentioned that you remembered being told differently.

Are you able to say what you believe he had told you regarding this?

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The Watchtower—Study Edition | February 2022 Trust in Jehovah ...We really meant ''the Governing Body''

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the watchtower—study edition | february 2022. study article 6. do you trust in jehovah’s way of doing things?.

15 as the end of this system of things draws near, we need to trust in jehovah’s way of doing things as never before.

during the great tribulation, we may receive instructions that seem strange, impractical, or illogical.

Listener

Since Satan is the Ruler of this World, then instructions that are illogical, strange and impractical couldn't originate with anyone else.