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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

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Thisismine1972 - I am noticing a change in pattern now as he gets more desperate. He's accusing people of being child abusers and the likes. He's desperate as nothing he says or does works now so he's lashing out. I think it was LMSA that said we should expect this, and it is now happening.

He cannot stay away from the internet and anything that is posted about himself, good and bad.

With the release of the letter to his wife there has been a ramp up of exJWs doing YT video's on it. That is fantastic as it helps to get the message out there.

The Great Apostate just released Part 1 of his response yesterday and it must have LE in a complete rage. It's the best (and will probably remain so IMHO, he's that good when it comes to hitting the spot)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YphV_KdaMRQ

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

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Obviously the revealing of the letter he wrote to his wife on the 16th December, 2021 has upset Lloyd Evans a great deal. So much so that it appears he has come onto this thread, once again and this time to suggest that his letter may in fact, be fake.

I do believe it's him posting as "Whateveryousay" which makes it so funny that he would post knowing he wrote it and suggesting to others that he might not have written it. It doesn't get more amusing.

If, by some very small chance, it happens to be one of his lovers or supporters, he should seriously consider employing them as his defence agent or script writer.

The question is, if someone is willing to come on here to defend his unscrupulous and disgusting behaviour why would they be so shy as to not reveal their identity? Also, the poster makes not one claim that Lloyd has reassured him that the letter is fake.

Kim would probably know more about this on the legal side but is it possible that Lloyd can't claim it's fake because he could be sued for making such a claim (by his wife or those mentioned in the letter) or even by those who received it directly from Lloyd's wife who have confirmed is legitimacy?

His posts have taken away further discussions and a breakdown of his letter but we have plenty of unfilled pages and plenty of time to discuss it more in depth.

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Betty Georges - The Female Helper to the Governing Body

by MillennialDawn in

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betty georges is listed as a helper to the governing body service committee, according to this page on the website: https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/governing-body-jw-helpers/.

anybody know anything about her?.

Listener

There's a Reddit post on it from early March. A couple of posters confirm he's male and one of them thinks he has a Haitian background.

It's surprising the org. didn't give him a different name knowing that they go to great lengths not to stumble anyone.🙄

I wonder if his pet name is Betty Georgeous.

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Ramapo

by Mit123 in

how much is ramapo going to cost?

my daughter in africa meets in a cow shed for her meetings.

i wonder how many khs in africa they could build if they dropped ramapo?.

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enoughisenough - Who do you think they are trying to please, Almighty God or the so called elite of mankind?

Winning the $1 million dollars and who know what other awards/competitions is their preference. No doubt they justify it as 'unrighteous riches'.

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Ramapo

by Mit123 in

how much is ramapo going to cost?

my daughter in africa meets in a cow shed for her meetings.

i wonder how many khs in africa they could build if they dropped ramapo?.

Listener

Wally from YT JW Thoughts did a video recently on a $1 million award that was given for the residences being developed as part of the Ramapo compound. Because of applying to enter this competition they were required to list the cost of the project.

These are the details

Comprising 645 market-rate units, The Residences will feature mass-timber structural systems (reducing embodied carbon), green roofs, and an energy recovery system on the building’s drain system. Heating and cooling are centralized from a closed-loop geothermal system comprised of 280 wells at 800-ft depth, the largest to date in New York State. Aggressive heat recovery strategies and use of on-site renewables (3,200 KW photo-voltaic system coupled with utility grade battery storage) are all managed by a behind-the-meter micro-grid control through high-efficiency systems. This results in an attractive, functional and energy efficient design that will achieve Carbon Neutral-ready performance.
The building will be designed and built to achieve ENERGY STAR and LEED standards.
REDC Region: Mid-Hudson
Status: Construction Documents
Completion Year: 2027
Number of Stories: 5
Building Gross Area: 735,020 Square Feet
Housing Units: 645 Market Rate
Total project cost: $168,000,000.00
Total project cost per sq ft: $228.57
Climate Friendly Carbon Neutral or Future Electrification
Certification Pathway: ASHRAE 90.1 2016
Health, Resiliency, and Sustainability Certifications: LEED Certification, ENERGY STAR MFNC
Technical attribute summary: All Electric, Net-Zero Energy, Hybrid Mass Timber, Mineral Wool Insulation, Rigid Insulation, Double Pane Windows, Central Plant with Heat Pump Chillers, Ground Source Heat Pumps for Cooling, Heating, and Domestic Hot Water, and Electric Boilers as back-up, DOAS with Enthalpy Recovery Wheel + 4-Pipe Fan-Coil Units, MERV 13 + MERV 8 filters, Vented Electric Clothes Dryer, Electric Stove, onsite Solar PV with a capacity of 3,275 kW, Battery Storage, Building Monitoring System, Occupancy and/or Vacancy Sensors, Occupancy Based Setbacks for Heating and Cooling Controls, Indoor Air Quality Monitoring and Controls, Demand response management system, 40 Vehicle Charging Stations, Interior Bike Storage for 545 Bikes
Non-Energy Benefits: Resiliency, safety and wellness of occupants, comfort benefit

This shows the cost of building 645 residential units at Ramapo will cost an estimated $168.000.000. This does not include the cost of the land or any other structures on the property, such as the studio itself.

There will also be a huge ongoing cost to not only maintain these units, there will be the cost of supporting those residing in them.

It's interesting that there will be parking storage for 545 bikes. At that rate, the JWs are going to look more like Mormons.

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Court case Jehovah's Witnesses Norway kicked off

by AndersonsInfo in

https://cne.news/article/2827-court-case-jehovah-s-witnesses-norway-kicked-off.

norwegian jehovah's witnesses are in court this wednesday and thursday.

they are fighting the government's decision to remove their registration as a religious community.. .

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Fisherman, what you consider to be a 'bad influence' is way over the top. Even more so when it comes to a Grandparent wishing what he thinks is the best for his grandchildren.

In my morality book, a grandparent should be given way more respect, patience, kindness, love, self control, understanding, mildness, consideration and appreciation than anyone else by his own children. If his peaceful beliefs infringe on his children's or grandchildrens then he should be given a wide berth.

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Court case Jehovah's Witnesses Norway kicked off

by AndersonsInfo in

https://cne.news/article/2827-court-case-jehovah-s-witnesses-norway-kicked-off.

norwegian jehovah's witnesses are in court this wednesday and thursday.

they are fighting the government's decision to remove their registration as a religious community.. .

Listener

Good point gavindlt. Your post belongs on this thread also

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5068920948523008/breaking-news-anthony-morris-iii-no-longer-serving-on-governing-body

They will make every effort to wiggle out of the evilness of their shunning policy. We even saw that in the Australian Royal Commission. They put the blame on the individual, saying it was their choice and basically their fault for not simply fading.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Listener

The idea that Ray Franz could in any way be compared to Evans is ludicrous and shameful to even suggest.

As for comparisons with Anthony Morris III, I think there are a number. Funny thing is that he helped to wake JWs up also, just not as an activist.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Listener

The Vast Apostate Hour was on to this years ago and confronted Lloyd with the accusations. On one YouTube channel he was asked some questions, I also asked him. I don't recall the channel.

His response was to bring his wife into it and he wrote that when he showed her the accusations, they both had a good laugh together because of how ridiculous they were. All while refusing to answer the questions

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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

by WingCommander in

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this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

this is not a joke.

anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

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They may have learnt from the situation with Ray Franz but have they made provisions for his wife?

If there is an agreement for silence, was his wife a signatory to this or is she the insignificant spouse and they forgot about her? How ironic it would be if she came out with a tell all book.