Posts by datto

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I don't want the Watchtower's version of paradise.

by StarTrekAngel in

i am writing this in the hopes that it may help someone in a debate.

i personally have not had a chance to discuss it with anyone but that is true for most other topics.

i think is a good one to analyze.

datto

After growing a bit older and having the opportunity to travel more and learn more about the different habitats, I've realized one thing... I love this paradise just the way it is!!!. I would not change it a bit. I visited some beautiful places more than once and I've realized that they look so much different in each season. I've also realized that some of the natural forces that we may call "destructive" are also the drivers of change. The change they bring about can also be beautiful. They impact the land as much as they impact the biodiversity of the area.

StarTrekAngel, but the WT also says 'avoid love for the world' in w15 5/15

10 Satan is “the ruler of this world,” and it is lying in his power. (John 12:31; 1 John 5:19) Therefore, much of what this world promotes runs counter to the standards set forth in the Bible. Of course, not everything the world offers is evil. However, we should expect that Satan would use his world to exploit our desires and try to induce us to sin or to develop love for the world and neglect our worship of Jehovah.—Read 1 John 2:15, 16.

11 Evidently, love for the world affected some first-century Christians. For example, Paul wrote: “Demas has forsaken me because he loved the present system of things.” (2 Tim. 4:10) The Bible does not specifically say what aspect of the world Demas loved, causing him to abandon Paul. It could be that Demas began to love material things more than spiritual pursuits. If that was the case, Demas missed out on thrilling spiritual privileges—and for what? Could the world possibly offer Demas anything that would surpass the blessings Jehovah could give him as an associate of Paul?—Prov. 10:22.

Science tells us that many beautiful natural habitats has a violent past. The Himalayas was formed from a massive collision between Indian Plate & the Eurasian Plate. Almost everything in the universe have gone through a rough, violent & disastrous process in their formation. However the god promoted by the WT can make it in a few clicks. They say paradise is perfection but in my opinion, I think paradise is imbalance from a scientific view. And of course what they will say next is we are now living in an imperfect world and it is difficult for us to understand the concept of perfection. What a cult

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I watched Mr. Jackson last night with my super cult minded parents

by Magwitch in

i have seen some ask on this site how the active jw's are handling what is happening in australia.

here is my little experience from last night........ my parents were baptized in the late 30's as children and have never faltered in their determination to survive the great tribulation and live forever in paradise (even though they actively associate with all their df'ed kids).

my father is still actively serving as an elder and my mother has always been by his side.

datto

Thank you Magwitch, that was wise. Good thing is the children are Df'd and your parents still keep in touch with'em and live happily.

thanks ron rawson for sharing your experience. I do believe as well folks will eventually realize those were craps. It's just that they have been doing it for too many years until it became habit. Habit dies hard.

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Does Jehovah Really Care?

by BashfulAshG in

i struggle with suicide often.

i'm not suicidal now.

datto

Listen to Whitney Houston's Greatest Love of All

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Preparing for Friday's Feeding Frenzy

by Esse quam videri in

many hundreds and perhaps thousands of people, worldwide, are eagerly waiting for the questioning of geoffrey jackson at the australian royal commission on institutional response to child abuse.

this is the day that many have hungered for.

finally, a member of the governing body being questioned and compelled to make full disclosure, to the best of his knowledge, the very best of his knowledge.

datto

I texted an elder just now providing him the link to the live event. Let's see how it goes..

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We're All Going To Die

by Garrett in

jw
friends

life has been busy, but i am now on 2 weeks vacation which allowed me some thinking room.

and here's what's been on my mind.. we're all going to die.

no matter what we do, our fate is sealed.

datto

Well said ExamsHater.

Science is telling us that the world is not about human being. To the universe, we are simply neglectable. Even the earth itself is not about human being. Our existence (human race) is simply meaningless to the nature.

Psychologically, this is too harsh for many people to accept. That's why there are organizations out there selling 'hope'.

To me it is not harsh at all. It's beautiful, nature is beautiful. It is all balanced. We're made out of star dust and when we die, we return to the nature. Our atoms actually never die. They are either transform to ashes or to fossils or might make its way to another life.

I like one of you mentioned about death is not harsh, life is precious. So live life to the fullest. If god show up taking you to a better place, that a bonus.

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"And what happened next was simply unbelievable!"

by Terry in

jw
friends

i always sit in the same spot, just outside starbucks in a vestibule area with a table in the air-conditioned space.

i say "always," but not today.. somebody with two laptops and a table filled with business ledgers was in "my" favorite spot!.

so, i took a tiny wooden table inside the coffee shop on a long padded bench next to 3 other identical tables.. as the clickbait banner ads like to say: "and what happened next was simply unbelievable!".

datto

you're a bad@ss! those traps you set, BAM! I wonder how they will label you. Son of Satan perhaps lol.

I understand the odd feeling you experienced after the incident. It happens to me as well. I like to get around them acting as if I'm a noob before I attack. However I didn't play it as good as you did. I initially thought it was a guilty feeling and I care for them as an individual. But remember, they are deeply marinated jdubs. Sometimes we simply have the need to knock'em hard.

Just got a text message from an elder wanted to meet me. I bet that's gonna count as 'services', 'bible studies', 'revisit' or whatever sh*t.

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Labeling one self "Atheist" is Unscientific

by LAWHFol in

i have not meet all atheists, and it would be foolish for me to assume that all atheists, share the same prototypical view points.

i am inclined to feel that this classifies the views of a large percentage of atheists.

"atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.

datto

My noob understanding is science deals with scientific modeling

models might not be certain. It can be challenged if there is a better scientific model. That is why science is always open and can never be absolutely certain.

The best fit model is called reality. The current best fit model in science is the Big Bang theory.

I personally thinks that science did not totally rejects the idea of god (not personal god). it's just that they put aside the idea and the room for god is getting smaller. IMHO science is agnostic atheist.

Btw, i don't know which category i fall into but i CURRENTLY do not believe in any god.

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JWs trying hard to hide in obscurity right now

by Zoos in

on other discussion boards where active jws participate i notice them deflecting questions about the royal commission in australia by bringing up child abuse statistics of other churches, ostensibly to demonstrate that there is nothing news worthy to see here... "move along!".

they are trying to make this story disappear into obscurity, irrelevance, as if it's just part and parcel of big institutional life, particularly of the religious nature.

oh, now they compare themselves to every other religion on the block?.

datto

I'm not sure about other search engines, but i find that the search results for 'jahovah witness' in google is so much different this week compared to last week

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Would the discovery of EXTRATERRESTRIAL LIFE completely debunk the bible and religion?

by Black Man in

jw
friends

i think it would.

instantly.

in fact, i hope one day soon that we somehow encounter extraterrestrial life because i think there would be a wholesale rejection of the bible and any/all religious institutions.

datto

I guess it would not lose it's position for ET discovery.

The bible is too powerful. Not spiritually powerful but powerful in the sense that many new stories or new interpretations could be made up out of it. And it might end up as a biblical prophecy... just my crazy thoughts...

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Grandchildren pay for the sins of their parents.

by Bonsai in

my wife's mother just related to us an interview she heard during the recent three day convention that she just had to share with us.

a brother and his wife have, for over 20 years, shunned their daughter because she ran off and eloped with a worldly guy.

while openly sobbing, he related how difficult it has been to shun his daughter and avoid unnecessary contact with her and her family.

datto

perhaps worse than reptiles. When I mentioned about reptiles, I have no offense against the animals as those were their natural characteristics. A quick check on the internet to find out that even some cold-blooded reptiles like the alligators are actually one of the most caring mother to their children in the animal kingdom. (shame on the witnesses).

I just chatted with two jw elders moments ago and this was our second meeting. I'm the one who first approaching them to find out more about what's under their sleeves. I treated the meetings as casual coffee chit chatting time. But I believe they must have taken things too seriously. They must have considered me as their sheep/goat/student and the sessions as perhaps 'bible studies'. WTF lol. And they wanna make the meeting like a scheduled routine that is to meet me every Tuesday. These folks are funny, didn't they have better things to do?