Posts by datto

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If God exists ....

by iconoclastic in

if god exists, he must be a god of freedom.

because he has endowed us with free-will, and never interferes with it (as confirmed by our own experiences).

that means he wants everyone to make their choice and reap the fruits accordingly.

If god exists (existed) he must be damn exited doing his stuff at the beginning. Then he started to get pissed off by men and he wanted to kill'em all. Just when he get so mad seeing the people getting sicker than ever, he suddenly thought of why the hell he still wanna waste his effort here? He might as well go create another new universe. He left and never came back ever since.

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Jehovah's people are the happiest people on earth!

by Coded Logic in

so this afternoon my roommate and i decided to go grab some dinner from the local chipotle and, as we live only a short distance from the franchise, we decided it was a good idea to walk.

little did i know that the j-dubs district convention here in sacramento was just getting out (the auditorium is literally smack in the middle of downtown and its attendees have to park in garages scattered a couple blocks away in every direction) so men in cheap suits and women in unflattering dress' were walking all over the place as though someone had antagonized their ungodly ant hill.

and, for sacramento, this of course is the complete opposite of the normative - that is to say, our streets are usually filled with well dressed, immaculately groomed, 'i know exactly where i'm going' government officials that monopolize the state capitol m-f. .

datto

Ofcoz they are the happiest. Who wouldn't wanna live in a fairy tale world? As for their attire, I would say that they wear like lousy salesmen. I myself is a lousy salesman but i don't like to wear like one. I prefer t-shirts & jeans.

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4 versions of Jesus resurrection- all different

by purrpurr in

i've been reading more and studying about the bible .

it was brought to my notice that out of the four different versions of jesus resurrection they do not back each other up.

instead they contradict each other a lot.

datto

Had this recorded in my TiVo for quite some time. Quite a boring documentary though

http://youtu.be/hNCEE48CwAo

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Is Satan really a liar, and the father of the lie?

by Israel Ricky Gonzales in

5 for god knows that in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like god, knowing good and bad.. .

genesis 3:22. jehovah god then said: here the man has become like one of us in knowing good and bad..".

for god knows that in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like god, knowing good and bad.?.

datto

Nick, I guess many who posted know Satan doesn't exist. We just wanna join the fun commenting on the entertaining stories told by the WT. I personally like Satan. He's cool, badass from the beginning and inspired so many things. Compared to god, satan is certainly more knowledgeable, more hardworking, more efficient & a man of his word.

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If jw's obeyed all of the bible commandments what would they be like?

by purrpurr in

the jw's cite abstaining from blood along with other cherry picked commandments.

but then ignore the others.

this is very hippocritical and if they are going to obey one commandment they should be obeying the rest.. just as a bit of fun then... what would jw's be like if they obeyed every rule in the bible?.

datto

They will be like gollum (Smeagol)

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Is Satan really a liar, and the father of the lie?

by Israel Ricky Gonzales in

5 for god knows that in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like god, knowing good and bad.. .

genesis 3:22. jehovah god then said: here the man has become like one of us in knowing good and bad..".

for god knows that in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like god, knowing good and bad.?.

datto

The JWs told me that paradise is like when Adam & eve time before they sinned. Means those who will make it to paradise will actually become dumb? Oh god is creepy & Satan is awesome

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i feel more confused than ever

by BlackWolf in

jw
friends

well i know i've been posting a lot of topics like this lately and i'm sorry if i sound whiny or annoying.

my parents were asking me why i was so upset lately and i ended up just telling them the whole truth.

i told them i don't believe in god or the bible because i don't have any evidence of anything.

datto

BlackWolf, make two things very clear and hopefully you'll live happier.

1. It seems like you're awaken and it's difficult to put you back to sleep. That is something you should be happy about.

2. You must know who you are dealing with. They are not just ordinary jws, they are also your loved ones. You need to go easy on them. This is mature stuff and it is not easy at your age. Anyway you gotta be a man. I know you wanna be an honest boy and express all your feelings to them. But again, check again who you're dealing with. There is no point telling them everything (at this point of time). Tell them something that they could probably accept such as you still love Jesus & you feel closer to god (even though you're not, yes that's white lie). If you wanna express yourself, this forum is the place for you to do that. Slowly and gradually help them into awakening slow and steady. Sooner you'll find that all these actions are an act of love instead of just feeling sick.

be strong!

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i made my sister cry :(

by BlackWolf in

jw
friends

so lately i've felt so frustrated and overwhelmed that i had to tell someone how i felt.

my parents were gone so i decided to talk to my sister.

we've always been close so i thought i could trust her because we have talked about it before.

datto

BlackWolf, patience is important and this has to be handled very carefully.

My sister, my bro-in-law & my 13 years old niece are jws. I didn't really care about my sister's belief as she's already in her middle age so she should be able to think for herself. The one i worried most is my niece. I am one of the person she look up to and we can talk about almost anything. I sometimes make fun of their religion and she can still let that go because I'm her favorite uncle. Anyway those were just small jokes. But there was once I talked a lil bit more about TTATT to her and she suddenly asked me to stop talking, and told me not to talk to her in that way in the future. I Immediately realized that this method will never work. It will only make things worse. It is important to maintain a good relationship and it is important that she will still listen to me in the future.

I also realized that even if it works and if she managed to realized TTATT, it will be very difficult for her to face it alone especially at her age. She still has to depend on her parents and the three of'em are staying so far from us(me & my family all non-jw). So I gotta switch plan.

BlackWolf, no matter what you say, don't risk breaking the good relationship between you and your sis. Make sure you guys can still talk. Lets work together. The least we can do now is try to delay her baptize. Some friends here mentioned about Jesus isn't baptized until he's 30. So imitate Jesus!

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I don't want the Watchtower's version of paradise.

by StarTrekAngel in

i am writing this in the hopes that it may help someone in a debate.

i personally have not had a chance to discuss it with anyone but that is true for most other topics.

i think is a good one to analyze.

datto

I'm really very curious about how their paradise really looks like coz there's always many question marks pop up in my head when looking at their illustrations. Dolphins coming to the shores? Surfing while there are kids diving below? Really?

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I don't want the Watchtower's version of paradise.

by StarTrekAngel in

i am writing this in the hopes that it may help someone in a debate.

i personally have not had a chance to discuss it with anyone but that is true for most other topics.

i think is a good one to analyze.

datto

After growing a bit older and having the opportunity to travel more and learn more about the different habitats, I've realized one thing... I love this paradise just the way it is!!!. I would not change it a bit. I visited some beautiful places more than once and I've realized that they look so much different in each season. I've also realized that some of the natural forces that we may call "destructive" are also the drivers of change. The change they bring about can also be beautiful. They impact the land as much as they impact the biodiversity of the area.

StarTrekAngel, but the WT also says 'avoid love for the world' in w15 5/15

10 Satan is “the ruler of this world,” and it is lying in his power. (John 12:31; 1 John 5:19) Therefore, much of what this world promotes runs counter to the standards set forth in the Bible. Of course, not everything the world offers is evil. However, we should expect that Satan would use his world to exploit our desires and try to induce us to sin or to develop love for the world and neglect our worship of Jehovah.—Read 1 John 2:15, 16.

11 Evidently, love for the world affected some first-century Christians. For example, Paul wrote: “Demas has forsaken me because he loved the present system of things.” (2 Tim. 4:10) The Bible does not specifically say what aspect of the world Demas loved, causing him to abandon Paul. It could be that Demas began to love material things more than spiritual pursuits. If that was the case, Demas missed out on thrilling spiritual privileges—and for what? Could the world possibly offer Demas anything that would surpass the blessings Jehovah could give him as an associate of Paul?—Prov. 10:22.

Science tells us that many beautiful natural habitats has a violent past. The Himalayas was formed from a massive collision between Indian Plate & the Eurasian Plate. Almost everything in the universe have gone through a rough, violent & disastrous process in their formation. However the god promoted by the WT can make it in a few clicks. They say paradise is perfection but in my opinion, I think paradise is imbalance from a scientific view. And of course what they will say next is we are now living in an imperfect world and it is difficult for us to understand the concept of perfection. What a cult