I've said it before and I'll say it again...I'm done with EggNogg.
He just told me I'll probably parish anyways.....that would be tragic if Jesus hadnt already died for my sins. WOW SOOO MUCH JUDGMENT!!!!
BY GRACE
maybe the effect of this change is bigger than realized?
in 1995, it was discussed (positively) by everybody, during the week we studied the wt.
one elder stepped down and was looked down upon.
I've said it before and I'll say it again...I'm done with EggNogg.
He just told me I'll probably parish anyways.....that would be tragic if Jesus hadnt already died for my sins. WOW SOOO MUCH JUDGMENT!!!!
BY GRACE
recently i had the pleasure to examine a stash of 1920s and 1930s golden age magazines, among the rarest of watchtower publications.
i thought it would be a fun idea to have a thread in which i share with you some of the amazing, ridiculous, hilarious things contained therein.
hence, this is the first post of a series of excerpts, scans, etc.
Bookmarked!
maybe the effect of this change is bigger than realized?
in 1995, it was discussed (positively) by everybody, during the week we studied the wt.
one elder stepped down and was looked down upon.
DJEggNogg
I speak from my heart. I was raised as a Jehovah's Witness. (long before the internet and discovering this website) What lead me away from Jehovah's Orginization? No one is sure of their salvation. Every long lifer I ever knew felt not good enough for Jehovah, and worried everyday if they will make it. When my husbands 80 year old grandpa, who worked at bethal, wbbr, sold his house for 75, on his death bed is unsure if he did enough for Jehovah.....is thankful he will die in this system because then he will at least be brought back. And when my brother who struggles with reading and public speaking, decides the only sure way to the new system is the "underground railway" in a pine boxcar. My very very diligent very good JW mother, who has lived her whole life for Jehovah, does not think she is going to make it most days...unless she can do more.
I lived this life I know my reality.... I was preparred to die at arrmagedon. I never thought I could do enough to make it......although I kept trying and trying to live up to the standards. I UNLIKE YOU never ever ever went to webstites like this...I didnt even know they existed.
So needless to say when I read your reply:
Let me put it this way: Anyone that listens to you will die. There is no one that refuses to listen to us that will be saved. Period. By our paying constant attention to ourselves and to what we teach, and living our lives in accord with these things, Jehovah's Witnesses have faith thatwe will save not just ourselvesbut those who listen to us. (1 Timothy 4:16)
I say to you: YOU ONLY HOPE TO SAVE YOURSELF!
i have two living siblings, an older brother, and a younger sister.
my brother and his wife have had to move many times due to his job because of promotions, and new opportunities.
everytime they moved, it would be weeks before they were settled enough to begin attending meetings again.
I want my mom out, but I dont want to break her heat either. I am sooo happy and sooo sad for you both! But now true healing can happen!
when i ask my jw friend if she has read various classic books, she says, "i don't like to read.
" however, she of course reads all the wt stuff.
i don't know too many jw's, but the ones i have seen in the meetings seem mostly uneducated and, even when speaking from the platform, seem almost illiterate - that is, unable to pronounce certain words even in the wt literature.
Hmm how much do you wanna bet that the ones on this site are/were more of the readers? Reading does expand the mind and the thoughts.
Seb that scripture you speak of is now one of my fav, and helped me to break free. I was allways taught that scripture (just vrs 12) as a tool to make me stop reading so much worldly stuff. What a surprise it was to read it with a free mind....how did I not see this stuff sooner????? ECC 12:12 But to get the full contect read VRS 9 -14. You will never think of the book company the same again!
9 Not only was the Teacher wise, but he also imparted knowledge to the people. He pondered and searched out and set in order many proverbs. 10 The Teacher searched to find just the right words, and what he wrote was upright and true.
11 The words of the wise are like goads, their collected sayings like firmly embedded nails—given by one shepherd. [a]
12 Be warned, my son, of anything in addition to them. Of making many books there is no end, and much study wearies the body.
13 Now all has been heard;
here is the conclusion of the matter:
Fear God and keep his commandments,
for this is the duty of all mankind.
14 For God will bring every deed into judgment,
including every hidden thing,
whether it is good or evil.
before i had my son 8 months ago a baby was just "another baby.
" now i seem to be constantly noticing babies around town and watching them more intently to see how their personality is.
i never really though of the fact that even very small babies have very prenounced personalities.
BABY PICS...OH MY!!!! TOOO SWEET! Congrats!!
finally i registered today.
being a lurker for quite some months, i convinced myself it is time to give my own 2 pence from time to time.
i am living in europe and i am still 'in', although by now i must be counted as an inactive jw.
WELCOME WELCOME WELCOME!
Tell your wife to come on over to the dark side! Being free as a couple has been soooo awesome for my hubby and me. Although we are fadding....being able to have eachother is the best! Cheers and welcome again!
i am constantly reading, studying, looking up more stuff on the internet, perusing old threads, keeping up with "new light" on jwn.
i am in the middle of "in search of christian freedom" (having just finished steve's cultmind control book) and i am finding it so argumentive doctrinally that my head is spinning.
i found myself this evening with my laptop next to my desktop (all the better to reference back and forth, m'dear) the wt library cd-rom open to "the modern history of jehovah's witnesses" in twenty four parts, with a plethera of "rainbow" books open for easy reference while i was listening to an old fred franz discourse at dodgers stadium!!!!!!!!!!!!.
Grandma Jones
My husband many years ago (and then recently) told me how the example of the coal (the Jw Person) that gets removed from the fire (the cong) it cools off, but when it is place back into the fire it starts to glow again. He always said how that he found this so fitting and didnt understand why they used this example.....he was like uh ya coal gets "CONSUMED" by the fire - burned up - nothing left. He said a little distance from the blaze was a good thing to keep your whole person saine was required, lest you get consumed. (gee he really is smart and a real keeper)
And when I was/am doing just as you posted, he reminds me to not let it consume me, cool off - back away. Just enough to keep me on the edge of sainity...teheee and you are not alone I have 4 internet screens up, and i have 6 hours till I need to be at work. And my smart hubby, yup kissed me good night and went to bed 2 hours ago. It is a gift to turn It off...One I havent got quite as good as him....but I working on it....haha
alas i need to vent!!!!
how can the posters who claim to be 100% loyal to the watchtower take themselves serious i mean you are on an apostate site!
that is not allowed, you have reasoned that it is okay for you to do this, therefore you are not 100% following the slave.
Good Points, and like I mentioned in my post when they go off it makes me happy that I am no longer one. I can so clearly see their flawwed thinking/logic. And Yes we are facing a new breed of JW's maybe we need a thread on that topic.
I hope my thread will not scare anyone away, by the time I was here reading I clearly knew where I was and why I was here. I didnt start straight out in the forums. I went to freeminds and jwfacts...it took a while to be vocal and wanna chat.
I have the perfect post devised for the next encounter with such a posser....tee hee it uses the word "evidently"...haha
i want to collect a bunch of things that i can use to help my son see that the wbts and being a jw makes no sense.. i have a few in mind already.
they have to be things that might matter to a teenager, so doctrine will probably be out!.
(if you have read my last post you will see why).
Hi
Bullies. The Wt is simply a Big Bully. Where I live there is lots of focus on how to deal with bullies.
http://www.bullyonline.org/workbully/serial.htm this has a great list of qualities of a bully....you can talk open about bullies and how they work with out attacking the org. Then latter you can draw straight line from one to the other.
Good Luck