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according to the march 15, 2002 wt page 14 the "seven stars" of revelation 1:20 in christ's righ hand apply exclusively to appointed jw elders today and since they and the governing body are under christ's direction we should submit to their leadership etc.. .
at the kingdom hall last week i heard a talk in wich the speaker intimated that since the congregations in asia minor all received letters they were organized in much the same way as the wt is today.. what is your take on this matter?
Stevieb1,
This is really nothing new. Go back to the 1988 book "Revelation Its Grand Climax At Hand!" on pages 28-29 for a discussion on this topic.
Here again as with the 144,000 the W.T. plays the numbers game. The seven stars (are not really angels) and are not really seven in number literally but are all elders (messengers) in the seven congregations. Here 7 is symbolic of all. But the 7 lampstands is a literal number signifying the 7 congregations.
if everyone here , or nearly everyone here does not believe the jw's then why waste your time going onto these websites.
when everyone leaves the truth they automaticaly go to jw websites....why?
if you no longer believe it why waste your time?.
Comforter would never associate with apostates physically. It gives me great comfort to know he does so mentally and spiritually. Otherwise he wouldn't even be on this board.
"thrilling convention"...only took notes of comments / observations not including:.
- typical "gloom and doom" (real heavy since 9/11).
- "do more" (especially as some one of a kind robotic drones demonstrate).
"The organization is not perfect..."
I can't tell. Why don't they openly confess their imperfections and quit pretending that they are perfect? A people that can't admit their sins and faults (like in the pedophilia issue) are proud. And everyone knows that pride is before a fall. Jesus came to save sinners. The Kingdom Halls should have a sign above their doors that state: "Only sinners welcome here." If there are no sinners in the Kingdom Halls than there are only self righteous Pharisees there, who think they are saved and have no need of a Savior. How do Jws respond to sinners? They follow Paul and disfellowship them. But that is not what Jesus said should be done. Matt. 18:17 "...treat him as a sinner and tax collector." And how exactly did Jesus treat the sinners and tax collectors? Did he ostracize them? No, he associated and ate with them. He kept right on loving them. A far cry from Paul and modern Jws. Whom should we follow?
11. since the wts claims "apostolic succession", can it trace its roots all the way back to christ (mt 16:18)?
if so, who was it that "passed the torch of god's spirit" to c. t. russell when he founded the organization?
what was the name of this individual or individuals?.
Only 44 more questions to go. Yawn!
marley cole in 1955 wrote "jehovah's witnesses the new world society," which includes a photocopy of a letter ida eisenhower wrote in 1943 to j.w.
lawson of long island, n.y. therein, she stated that she had been in the truth since 1896 and naomi engle who stayed with her was also a witness.
since she died the next year, mrs. eisenhower apparently died as a faithful jehovah's witness.
Marley Cole in 1955 wrote "Jehovah's Witnesses the New World Society," which includes a photocopy of a letter Ida Eisenhower wrote in 1943 to J.w. I.H. Lawson of Long Island, N.Y. Therein, she stated that she had been in the truth since 1896 and Naomi Engle who stayed with her was also a witness. Since she died the next year, Mrs. Eisenhower apparently died as a faithful Jehovah's Witness. I read this book a number of years ago, but I no longer have a copy. I can't remember if Marley Cole is a Jw. or not. Does anyone know? If so, do you think that Jws exploited Mrs. Eisenhower by parading her as a Jw and mother of General Eisenhower? Since her son, Dwight David, went on to be president of the U.S., he must not have been impressed by this religion which opposes war and politics and was apparently embarrassed by his mother's affiliation since he tried at every opportunity to distance himself from the Watchtower. Dwight, if I remember correctly, attended the Presbyterian Church.
well people, this is a big day for me.
not only am i 50 today (ugh) but i am celebrating it.
at least i can say that so far it feels no worse than 49.lol.
Happy Birthday to you.
Happy Birthday to you.
Happy Birthday dear Jaded and Makena.
Happy Birthday to YOU!
Chorus encore.
i was born whilst my parents were on a jw missionary assignment.
unofficially i am only a year old!
lol this will be the first time my family and i have ever celebrated.
Mak,
May you have 47 more! Happy birthday.
i've known of the 4 "official: gospel accounts.... and, i know the gospel account by thomas,.
was just reading a synopsis of a course run by the wea** in sydney oz, called "on line - new images of jesus of nazareth", which says in part.... "his teaching was purely oral so we have to rely on the transmission of his words by others to achieve even an inkling of what he taught.
how reliable are the sources?
There are a number of other gospels: Gospel of Bartholomew, Gospel of Peter, Gospel of Philip, Gospel of Mary, Gospel of James, Protoevangelium, Gospel of Nicodemus, etc.
For a complete list check:
http://home.inreach.com/usm/pseudepigrapha.html
Scroll down to "Gospel Section."
thought i was posting my grand exit?
if your reading this i had you fooled didn't i?
surprisingly, my mother has invited me to florida to check out her new apartment since her and my father seperated.
Dana asks: "Gators got scalps?"
They have heads don't they? The Noles make trophies with them. Keeps our taxidermists busy. I have one mounted on my wall. Ha. Ha. Just joking!
All foolishness aside, let me know when your plans are finalized for the Apostafest. I can't guarantee that I will attend, but it sounds like a great idea.
would god understand?
in nazi germany, a german woman hides 3 little jewish children in her basement.
a gestapo lieutenant comes to the door and asks if she knows where the same three children are?
Gsx1138 writes: "You may as well quote Grimm fairy tales because the Bible means nothing to me."
In actuality you might not understand some of Grimms fairy tales if you don't read the Bible. They are based on the Bible. See:
http://www.firstthings.com/ftissues/ft0101/reviews/zaleski.html
