Thnx, wallsofJericho, for posting the link.
Scanning through the argued six points of that article, I suddenly realised that nearly all of them are also discussed in Chinese newspapers.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d79ffff8-cfb7-11e3-9b2b-00144feabdc0.html#axzz30n0eglxv.
i nearly dropped my coffee on the floor!
this ain't some goofy conspiracy site.. let the scots vote themselves independence and finish off "anglo-america".. .
Thnx, wallsofJericho, for posting the link.
Scanning through the argued six points of that article, I suddenly realised that nearly all of them are also discussed in Chinese newspapers.
Amazon are offering it at $137.49
http://www.amazon.com/International-Dictionary-Testament-Theology-Exegesis/dp/0310276195
edited to add:
My friend (also XJW) once bought for hundreds of dollars, a recommended Bible publication, for another friend who had been assigned as a WT writer. This was on one of those more liberal swings by the Bible scholars who run JW inc.
Many months on the roundabout cycle, the WTS told this 'writer' he should NOT use that publication anymore.
Since my friend was always hard-pressed financially (having been one of those idiots who'd been a pioneer) he was rather pissed at that turn of events. But then, maybe that was the beginning of his exit, so it may have been a cheap price in the end. When you do something good for someone you're not always certain how the karmic reward comes back to you.
i was ready to vote today but i found out i had to be registered 30 days in advance, i missed the mark by 4 days.
anyway, even though i selected a party, i was on quite a few votes going to vote for other parties.
here is why, i was looking up the websites of each candidate.
Band on the Run: Leaders emerged through shouting and being rude.
Haha! Sounds like the www !!!
Read the comments attached to any thoughtful essay on line, and the sheer bastardary of the posters makes you long for non-democracy.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d79ffff8-cfb7-11e3-9b2b-00144feabdc0.html#axzz30n0eglxv.
i nearly dropped my coffee on the floor!
this ain't some goofy conspiracy site.. let the scots vote themselves independence and finish off "anglo-america".. .
prologos:
FTS. of course I was just getting ahead of the FADS in jest.
Then again England-like in Anglo, -Britain was only partially occupied by the Romans too- Hadrian's wall pales in comparison with the masterpiece in the central kingdom,
Cool, brother.
On the subject of 'walls.' Relatively unknown, but amazing in detail is the 'red snake' of Iran. It is perhaps the best surviving example of a barrier type defense system with indications of an extensive skilled engineering corp in charge.
In detail, it likely exceeds the Chinese walls in some ways.
Excavations In Iran Unravel Mystery Of 'Red Snake'
Date: February 26, 2008 Source: University of Edinburgh Summary: New discoveries unearthed at an ancient frontier wall in Iran provide compelling evidence that the Persians matched the Romans for military might and engineering prowess. The 'Great Wall of Gorgan'in north-eastern Iran, a barrier of awesome scale and sophistication, including over 30 military forts, an aqueduct, and water channels along its route, is being explored by an international team of archaeologists. This vast Wall-also known as the 'Red Snake'-is more than 1000 years older than the Great Wall of China**, and longer than Hadrian's Wall and the Antonine Wall put together. Eberhard Sauer, of the University of Edinburgh's School of History, Classics and Archaeology, said: “Our project challenges the traditional Euro-centric world view. At the time, when the Western Roman Empire was collapsing and even the Eastern Roman Empire was under great external pressure, the Sasanian Persian Empire mustered the manpower to build and garrison a monument of greater scale than anything comparable in the west. The Persians seem to match, or more than match, their late Roman rivals in army strength, organisational skills, engineering and water management.”
Eberhard Sauer, of the University of Edinburgh's School of History, Classics and Archaeology, said: “Our project challenges the traditional Euro-centric world view. At the time, when the Western Roman Empire was collapsing and even the Eastern Roman Empire was under great external pressure, the Sasanian Persian Empire mustered the manpower to build and garrison a monument of greater scale than anything comparable in the west. The Persians seem to match, or more than match, their late Roman rivals in army strength, organisational skills, engineering and water management.”
Source: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080218155534.htm
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d79ffff8-cfb7-11e3-9b2b-00144feabdc0.html#axzz30n0eglxv.
i nearly dropped my coffee on the floor!
this ain't some goofy conspiracy site.. let the scots vote themselves independence and finish off "anglo-america".. .
On the overall theme, may I add that the Chinese government does NOT think they are No1 in the world. The Chinese government is pragmatic and knows that there is a long way to go to make all Chinese as well-off as the theoretical average American (even, though the well-offness of the average American has not increased since about 1979, an interesting date to chuck into the thought-pot).
They also appreciate that the military power (the ability to kill and to keep on killing*) of the USA has not been surpassed. But they see that military power as coming at a huge cost,** and seem to be content to just sit there and wait until the life-blood (wealth) of the USA drains away from the huge cost of maintaining their war machine across the world.
To have the largest economy in the world is a meaningless statistic, in the minds of the Chinese leadership.
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* Unexploded American ordnance keeps on killing and maiming kids in many countries.
** Do ordinary Americans understand the cost of maintaining 900 military bases across the world
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d79ffff8-cfb7-11e3-9b2b-00144feabdc0.html#axzz30n0eglxv.
i nearly dropped my coffee on the floor!
this ain't some goofy conspiracy site.. let the scots vote themselves independence and finish off "anglo-america".. .
prologos:
This will be no problem for wt writers. In their book(s) how did the Anglo-American World power become the 7th.8th? because the Romans were in England, passed on the power-baton so to speak. So was it not the same? England dominating in Hong-Kong, Shang Hai, English commerce, the oOpium trade, the boxer war right into China, China allied with the US (like in American) in WW2.
Looking at it the past WT WAY, China is merely an extension of the Anglo Amercan, as Britain was of the Roman.
They are overlapping empires, now in the overlapping generation.
haha! prologos. The mantle of Freddy F has surely fallen on you, just as the mantle of Elijah fell on Elisha.
But may I adjust your light?
China was only semi-colonised by the Brits. The ruling dynasty, the Manchu's (- then a foreign power, now absorbed into China) gave up little bits of territory that had been added later than other bits, and had not yet been absorbed into Chinese civilisation, in the hope that a stronger Emperor would arrive on the scene and win it all back.
And, so he did !!!
this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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walls of jericho: JW's don't even realize they are Christophobic.
No, they are just like the first Christians and are Yahweh-centric.
this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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M*A*S*H: Polygamy?
What a grand idea, M*A*S*H! Penile circumference tests show most heterosexual males are fascinated by two women having it off, and likely fantasise, about having two women in bed with them. Do all the Christians here, get off on the thought of Abraham and Sarah and Hagar, all in bed together?
Or, Jacob, Rachel and Leah in bed together?
What fun those faithful old patriarch's must've had with two women in bed, and all with Yahweh's blessing. I predict, M*A*S*H, that if you're righta nd this is the grand announcement, that the modern day servants of Yahweh will increase like the sands of the sea. I may even consider going back myself, in body if not in spirit.
the watch tower history blog is the best out there.
the owners are considering shutting it down for lack of blog visits.
maybe a visit and a comment would help keep it alive.. http://truthhistory.blogspot.com/.
I understand your POV steve2.
And, I guess Old Goat's suggested solution is short term only. Maybe we need an internet museum for old (and useless) religions. There was once a site (dealing with ancient religion) called, "Where old Gods go to die," a sort of retirement village for the un-worshipped gods of the past. Purely a virtual place. ( I heard that Yahweh and Jesus made a forward booking, and all the other old gods put on a big protest and moved out.
I still argue for some way to preserve the information on the web-site in question.
Maybe some of the other web-sites could link it, like JWfacts, as an example. So that those who want to nosey around in the past can do so.
Strange, isn't it? IF I could have my life over, I think I'd like to be a historian. Not much money in it, but interesting to tease out what may have happened at some juncture in history.
The reason it would never have happened is because (as you've likely guessed) is that I became a witness and university was a no-no! Now I argue for the preservation of information about the JW religion.. haha! but part of the reason I do, is that (likely) the blokes at the top would like to see that information dead and buried, lost forever, so that they can make up a new mythology.
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In connection with Malcom, how interesting that he's with his father in 1915, during the well publicised debate with the reverend Troy, and in 1917 asks for exemption from the military draft (as a Christian) but then in 1918 he enlists in the army.
What happened? Did he break then with Joe R, or did he undergo a change of mind as to military service?