Posts by fulltimestudent

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Is Revelation a false prophecy; was Luke 21:8 written to discredit it; or is this a massively overlooked bible contradition?

by Island Man in

at luke 21:8 jesus is recorded as telling his disciples:.

"look out that you are not deceived; for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, 'i am he', and, 'the due time has approached.

at revelation 1:1-3 we read:.

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slimboyfat : Not to mention the fact Russell actually wrote a book called The Time is at Hand! Doh!

And of course, all the other ratbag Christians of the nineteenth century from Miller on, and before, going right back.

Where's Jesus? Do we need an Elijah to mock him? ( A slight revision to 1 Kings 18:27)

27 At noon Elijah began to taunt them. “Shout, where's Jesus, louder!” he said. “Surely he is a god! Perhaps he is deep in thought, or busy, or traveling. Maybe he is sleeping and must be awakened.” 28 So they preached louder and louder and gave all their money to print books as was their custom, until there was no more 29 Midday passed, and they continued their frantic prophesying until the time for the evening sacrifice. But there was no response, no one answered, no one paid attention. Jesus didn't listen."

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All Hail Our Robot Overlords

by Coded Logic in

absolutely amazing how fast this technology is advancing.

at the darpa challenge last year the robots could hardly walk up right and it took them ten minutes to walk through an open door frame.

now they're running around outside and opening doors like a pack of velociraptors!

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Umm! The trailer reminded me (for some unrealised reason) of a long ago version of H.G.Wells' "The War of the Worlds."

Guess it was the victorious machines, who are undone by a small group of Britishers winning (as always) against all odds.

Anyway, some say that all the stories in the world of storytelling can be reduced to six basic plots. Can't recall where I heard that either. Well, I'm sure it wasn't Jesus who told me.

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Reasons for NOT Returning

by Saved_JW in

i left the watchtower in the winter of 2008. my first year out was by far the most difficult.

i had every intention of returning to the watchtower for the very purpose of being able to speak with my friends and family.

i had already concluded that the teachings were not the "truth" [after reading crisis of conscience] so coming back was more emotional then anything.

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Reasons for not returning - haha!!!

But one reason in particular - they'd only chuck me out again. For I will never return to the way of life they advocate.

More Tim Minchin - Thank you God.

by fulltimestudent in

jw
friends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izewpscnolo

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZeWPScnolo

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All Hail Our Robot Overlords

by Coded Logic in

absolutely amazing how fast this technology is advancing.

at the darpa challenge last year the robots could hardly walk up right and it took them ten minutes to walk through an open door frame.

now they're running around outside and opening doors like a pack of velociraptors!

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And so single-minded! Once programmed the robot cannot be deflected from its task - a perfect Christian.

But you need more than the GB types, you also need the the 'worker' types. So robots give you the perfect coingregation, no messy humans with their doubts and disobedience, made without sexual feelings to cause gossip in the ranks.

So how about these 540 robots performing in perfect unison demonstrating the posibilities for a trouble free organisation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFEqTgIXvf8

You can even have high-flying 'Elder' drones keeping watch overhead for the slightest deviation. If one deviates, back to the workshop for re-programming. No need for disfellowshipping anymore.

The perfect Jesus people at last.

(Note: this was one of the performances for the Chinese New Year Concert on Chinese National Television. The city used as a background is Guangzhou in southern China).

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Christians, Pedophilia and the Australian Royal Commission

by fulltimestudent in

the vast majority of christians are not pedophiles and would most likely deplore it.

so why do so many church organisations try to cover it up?.

probably there are two reasons:.

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jhine : Of course you're right all churches have their share of cover up scandals . ... Any organisation , religious or otherwise , that can afford access to children or vulnerable adults will be targeted by paedophiles . lt would be interesting to know if , say , the Boy Scouts or gymnastic clubs have the same problem of people covering up for paedophile behaviour for the above two reasons .

Peophiles infiltrating an organisation is one way to explain their presence Jan, but there's another explanation I once read on Richard Sipe's web-site. The site is called, "Celibacy, Sex and Catholic church" and the link to it is - http://www.awrsipe.com/ - Sipe has studied this problem for many years. The Wikipedia entry under his name describes his experience:

"(He) is a former Benedictine monk-priest of 18 years, a sociologist and author of six books about Catholicism and the sexual abuses arising from the Catholic Church's requirements of celibacy. He is an American Certified Clinical Mental Health Counselor trained specifically[2] to deal with the mental health problems of Roman Catholic priests. He practiced psychotherapy, "taught on the faculties of Major Catholic Seminaries and colleges, lectured in medical schools, and served as a consultant and expert witness in both civil and criminal cases involving the sexual abuse of minors by Catholic priests". During his training and therapies, he conducted a 25-year ethnographic study published in 1990 about the sexual behavior of supposed celibates, in which he found more than half were involved in sexual relationships. In 1970, after leaving the priesthood, Richard Sipe married former nun, Marianne and they have one son.[1]

The site is now quite large and I'm unable to find the discussion I once read, but his argument essentially says that at puberty many Catholic youths will have a sexual experience and recoil in disgust (from the incident and themselves) because of Catholic teachings about sex. Some will have had the experience with other boys, and though recoiling in disgust will carry the memory of the exciting sexual feelings and pleasure they experienced.

They may go into the priesthood and may eventually have many opportunities to be alone with young people. If the memory of their sexual experience (when young and with someone like the young people they now deal with as priests) is aroused, the temptation may become too much to resist, particularly in the Catholic environment of enforced celibacy (with its denial of basic human sexuality).

Is it really working out like that? I feel I'm unable to answer that, except to say that its possible.

Interestingly, Sipe recounts that many studies within the Church indicate that only about 50% of Catholic clergy (of all levels) keep their vow of celibacy.

However, an affair with either an adult male or an adult woman is one thing, a criminal act with an underage person is another thing. A difficulty here is that, while in the USA the age of consent for consensual sex is 18, In Australia its 16, and in some places in the world its only 13.

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And, yes, the Boy Scouts have had a great deal of trouble with this problem, and in the scouts it seems a matter of infiltration and not the problem described above. It is of interest that Lord Baden Powell, the founder of the scouting organisations, liked to collect photographs of boys and young men naked. There is no evidence that he ever did anything to any young man or boy, in fact in the scouting manual he wrote he condemns such activity.

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Come home Cardinal Pell (song)

by zound in

enjoy a catchy protest song imploring catholic cardinal george pell to return to australia to face the royal commission for years of covering up child abuse.

just as the royal commission began uncovering dirt, george pell got 'promoted' and moved from australia to the vatican.

now he is coincidently too 'unwell' to return to australia to face the commission.

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Today (saturday 20th Feb.) the news is that the Victorian police have been investigating Cardinal Pell for child sex offences committed when he was a priest.

Pell 'vehemently' denies the allegation.

http://www.news.com.au/national/cardinal-george-pell-under-investigation-over-allegations-of-child-abuse/news-story/5d2f12f27a554b296331dc7a77797e20

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Was Adam "born" Circumsized ?

by RubaDub in

i guess we have to assume that jesus was circumcised on the 8th day but what about adam?

he was "perfect", so did he have the weenie cut or not?.

i would like to bring this question up at a "get-together".. rub a dub .

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David_Jay : In Judaism, rabbinic custom states that Adam was created circumcised and that all the Jewish male saints had this privilege. However the view is not universal among Jews

Oh! David, that's such a disappointment!

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Prince's recent passport pik!

by fulltimestudent in

well, that's the claim.

is this sexy, or isn't it?

are male witnesses now allowed to wear eye liner?.

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sir82 : Generally true, but Michael Jackson did get DF'ed in the 80's
Back in the day, I was told by an ex-missionary (who maintained links with Brooklyn) that MJ had confessed to screwing a 'girl' on the back seat of his Rolls Royce (grin - I'm trying to imagine the scene), and that it was because MJ wanted out.
Impossible to verify, of course. But that's the story. In the light of subsequent knowledge it may be difficult to imagine that the story is true. But maybe MJ made it up, because he did want out.

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Prince's recent passport pik!

by fulltimestudent in

well, that's the claim.

is this sexy, or isn't it?

are male witnesses now allowed to wear eye liner?.

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Well, that's the claim

Is this sexy, or isn't it? Are male witnesses now allowed to wear eye liner?

I wonder if the elders want to discuss it with him?

If not, can we assume that there are two levels of standards within the YHWH organisation?

Link: https://twitter.com/Prince3EG/status/697809908700303360/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw