Who needs real people (who don't actually do much except move their trolleys around) and their trolley carts, anymore.
The Buddhists engage with the robot age.
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Buddha Beats YHWH/JESUS in the missionary field
by fulltimestudent inwho needs real people (who don't actually do much except move their trolleys around) and their trolley carts, anymore.. the buddhists engage with the robot age.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7dnf1c1sj0.
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Jesus (if he exists) has a heart of stone - a saga about the hurt of children in his church.
by fulltimestudent injesus is supposed to care for little children.
mark 10 is often quoted to illustrate his concern.. mark 10:13-16niv.
the little children and jesus13 people were bringing little children to jesus for him to place his hands on them, but the disciples rebuked them.
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How interesting!
No-one stands up to defend Jesus, not that he is defensible, nor does he defend himself (assuming he is alive somewhere in the universe).
Yet over the years, some have stood up to declare their faith in him. Do they too, agree that Jesus' failure to act against those who (in his own church, so it is claimed) committed these great crimes against these children, not just sexually but also with cruel physical punishments.
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Why we got fooled into accepting the JW/Christian Superstition.
by fulltimestudent inthe problem lies in the way our brains work.
this video is not specifically about religion as a fallacy, but shows why we can accept superstition as a reality:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5xqtol5hpe.
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Sorry, I did not pick up the sound hassle on YT. I first saw this program on an Aussie TV/Radio network, SBS.
Australians could watch it on SBS 'on demand' - http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/739748419539/brain-games-superstitions
But I'm not sure that many other countries may have access to SBS.
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Why we got fooled into accepting the JW/Christian Superstition.
by fulltimestudent inthe problem lies in the way our brains work.
this video is not specifically about religion as a fallacy, but shows why we can accept superstition as a reality:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5xqtol5hpe.
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The problem lies in the way our brains work. This video is not specifically about religion as a fallacy, but shows why we can accept superstition as a reality:
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Jesus (if he exists) has a heart of stone - a saga about the hurt of children in his church.
by fulltimestudent injesus is supposed to care for little children.
mark 10 is often quoted to illustrate his concern.. mark 10:13-16niv.
the little children and jesus13 people were bringing little children to jesus for him to place his hands on them, but the disciples rebuked them.
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Jesus is supposed to care for little children. Mark 10 is often quoted to illustrate his concern.
Mark 10:13-16NIV
The Little Children and Jesus
13 People were bringing little children to Jesus for him to place his hands on them, but the disciples rebuked them. 14 When Jesus saw this, he was indignant. He said to them, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these.15 Truly I tell you, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it.” 16 And he took the children in his arms, placed his hands on them and blessed them.But, in the real world, where children can and do suffer, we observe that Jesus does not help. His heart is stone and he does not hear the cries of little children as they suffer.
Here's a specific case that illustrates his stony silence:
This is the story of little children in the care of the Roman Catholic church, whose lives turned into a nightmare, as told on SBS a government owned media network in Australia.
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/feature/girls-paedophile-and-cardinal-pell?cid=trending
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Why the story of Noah's ark is scientifically impossible: Minimum Viable Population
by ILoveTTATT2 ini didn't know this but there is a way to calculate the minimum population required for a certain species to survive over the next 100 to 1000 years.
this is called the "minimum viable population".. genesis states that 2 (or 7) of each "kind" went into the ark.
supposing that each "kind" means each "species", and they all could fit in the ark, and they came out safely, most of the species would have died, because it is impossible to survive, long-term, with a starting population of 2.this is interesting:"an mvp of 500 to 1,000 has often been given as an average for terrestrial vertebrates when inbreeding or genetic variability is ignored.
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And then there are the Graeco-Roman flood myths, which should be of greater interest to Bible students, since the Palestinian area, where the Jewish people's lived was part of the Hellenic cultural zone, and naturally the Jews were greatly influenced by that culture.
Cutting and pasting from Wikipedia we see some interesting parallels between the mythical Greek version and the Jewish mythical version.
Quote: The fullest accounts are provided in Ovid's Metamorphoses (8 AD) and in the Library of Pseudo-Apollodorus.[9]Deucalion, who reigned over the region of Phthia, had been forewarned of the flood by his father, Prometheus. Deucalion was to build a chest and provision it carefully (no animals are rescued in this version of the Flood myth), so that when the waters receded after nine days, he and his wife Pyrrha, daughter of Epimetheus, were the one surviving pair of humans. Their chest touched solid ground on Mount Parnassus,[10] or Mount Etna in Sicily,[11] orMount Athos in Chalkidiki,[12] or Mount Othrys in Thessaly.[13]
Hyginus mentions the opinion of a Hegesianax that Deucalion is to be identified with Aquarius, "because during his reign such quantities of water poured from the sky that the great Flood resulted."
Once the deluge was over and the couple had given thanks to Zeus, Deucalion (said in several of the sources to have been aged 82 at the time) consulted anoracle of Themis about how to repopulate the earth. He was told to cover your head and throw the bones of your mother behind your shoulder. Deucalion and Pyrrha understood that "mother" is Gaia, the mother of all living things, and the "bones" to be rocks. They threw the rocks behind their shoulders and the stones formed people. Pyrrha's became women; Deucalion's became men.
Deucalion and Pyrrha had at least two children, Hellen and Protogenea, and possibly a third, Amphictyon (who is Autochthonous in other traditions).
Their children as apparently named in one of the oldest texts, Catalogue of Women, include daughters Pandora and Thyia, and at least one son, Hellen.[14]Their descendants were said to have dwelt in Thessaly. One corrupt fragment might make Deucalion the son of Prometheus and Pronoea.[15]
On the other hand, Dionysius of Halicarnassus gives Deucalion's parentage as Prometheus and Clymene, daughter of Oceanus, and mentions nothing about a flood, but instead names him as commander of those from Parnassus who drove the "sixth generation" of Pelasgians from Thessaly.[16]
One of the earliest Greek historians, Hecataeus of Miletus, was said to have written a book about Deucalion, but it no longer survives. The only extant fragment of his to mention Deucalion does not mention the flood either, but names him as the father of Orestheus, king of Aetolia. The much later geographerPausanias, following on this tradition, names Deucalion as a king of Ozolian Locris and father of Orestheus. Plutarch mentions a legend that Deucalion and Pyrrha had settled in Dodona, Epirus; while Strabo asserts that they lived at Cynus, and that her grave is still to be found there, while his may be seen atAthens; he also mentions a pair of Aegean islands named after the couple.[citation needed]
The 2nd-century writer Lucian gave an account of the Greek Deucalion in De Dea Syria that seems to refer more to the Near Eastern flood legends: in his version, Deucalion (whom he also calls Sisythus)[17] took his children, their wives, and pairs of animals with him on the ark, and later built a great temple inManbij (northern Syria), on the site of the chasm that received all the waters; he further describes how pilgrims brought vessels of sea water to this place twice a year, from as far as Arabia and Mesopotamia, to commemorate this event.reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deucalion
There's more, of course. From India, where civilisation grew up around the great river systems of the Indus and the Ganges, we find similar mythical accounts.
And, in China similar myths exist, where Yu tames the Yellow River and becomes Emperor of the first Xia dynasty. Lots of excitement in academia lately as a researcher believes he's found the source of the great flood account that Yu tamed.
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Why the story of Noah's ark is scientifically impossible: Minimum Viable Population
by ILoveTTATT2 ini didn't know this but there is a way to calculate the minimum population required for a certain species to survive over the next 100 to 1000 years.
this is called the "minimum viable population".. genesis states that 2 (or 7) of each "kind" went into the ark.
supposing that each "kind" means each "species", and they all could fit in the ark, and they came out safely, most of the species would have died, because it is impossible to survive, long-term, with a starting population of 2.this is interesting:"an mvp of 500 to 1,000 has often been given as an average for terrestrial vertebrates when inbreeding or genetic variability is ignored.
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In a river valley system floods can be expected, right now Louisiana in the USA is experiencing serious flooding.
But in pre-history there may well have been catastrophic floods that affected our primitive ancestors. Melting ice as ice-age epochs (never mentioned in the Bible-ever wondered why?) came to their end and the ice melted must have killed whole areas of early humans.
Another theory, that accounts for the flood memories of West Asian peoples is now known as the Black Sea Deluge hypothesis. In brief (from the National Geographic web-site) states:
Quote:" Columbia University geologists William Ryan and Walter Pitman wondered what could explain the preponderance of flood legends. Their theory: As the Ice Age ended and glaciers melted, a wall of seawater surged from the Mediterranean into the Black Sea.
• During the Ice Age, Ryan and Pitman argue, the Black Sea was an isolated freshwater lake surrounded by farmland.
• About 12,000 years ago, toward the end of the Ice Age, Earth began growing warmer. Vast sheets ofice that sprawled over the Northern Hemisphere began to melt. Oceans and seas grew deeper as a result.
• About 7,000 years ago the Mediterranean Sea swelled. Seawater pushed northward, slicing through what is now Turkey.
• Funneled through the narrow Bosporus, the water hit the Black Sea with 200 times the force of Niagara Falls. Each day the Black Sea rose about six inches (15 centimeters), and coastal farms were flooded.
• Seared into the memories of terrified survivors,the tale of the flood was passed down through the generations and eventually became the Noah story.Reference: http://www.nationalgeographic.com/blacksea/ax/frame.html - if this concept is of interest, there are more pages to explore.
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Why the story of Noah's ark is scientifically impossible: Minimum Viable Population
by ILoveTTATT2 ini didn't know this but there is a way to calculate the minimum population required for a certain species to survive over the next 100 to 1000 years.
this is called the "minimum viable population".. genesis states that 2 (or 7) of each "kind" went into the ark.
supposing that each "kind" means each "species", and they all could fit in the ark, and they came out safely, most of the species would have died, because it is impossible to survive, long-term, with a starting population of 2.this is interesting:"an mvp of 500 to 1,000 has often been given as an average for terrestrial vertebrates when inbreeding or genetic variability is ignored.
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TheOldHippie : ... I happen to believe in the flood story - but not that it was global. Huge and quite possibly having worldwide effects, but the flood itself local. There was not enough time for human or animal population to spread as fast as it must have in order to be as plentiful as it must have been during the days of Abraham etc.
Of course, floods are part of the real life and the mythical life of various situations. The flood myths invariably come from societies that live in river valleys, that's why the myth from which the biblical flood myth is most likely derived comes from the Tigris-Euphrates river system. If you've never heard of the Epic of Gilgamesh, you can find a reasonable discussion in the Wikipedia at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_of_Gilgamesh.
Much of the mythical account has been preserved on clay tablets that archeaologists have discovered. This image shows what they look like.
The first half of the story discusses Gilgamesh, king of Uruk, and Enkidu, a wild man created by the gods to stop Gilgamesh from oppressing the people of Uruk. After an initial fight, Gilgamesh and Enkidu become close friends (or lovers, according to some). Together, they journey to the Cedar Mountain and defeat Humbaba, its monstrous guardian. Later they kill the Bull of Heaven, which the goddess Ishtar sends to punish Gilgamesh for spurning her advances. As a punishment for these actions, the gods sentence Enkidu to death.
In the second half of the epic, distress about Enkidu's death causes Gilgamesh to undertake a long and perilous journey to discover the secret of eternal life. He eventually learns that "Life, which you look for, you will never find. For when the gods created man, they let death be his share, and life withheld in their own hands".[1][2] However, because of his great building projects, his account of Siduri's advice, and what the immortal man Utnapishtim told him about the Great Flood, Gilgamesh's fame survived his death.
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Obedience At Its Blindest
by Nevuela injust a little something my "anointed" roommate posted on facebook a few months ago, along with replies from her fellow jws.
it was chilling to read, so i took a screenshot and saved it for future reference.
please feel free to share your own stories of blind obedience within the org.
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We were once, Data-dog - ALL idiots (here).
That text used to be one of my favourites, I used it so often, working it into talk after talk (being encouraging to the brotherhood, of course!)
I could just imagine YHWH/JESUS, hiding me somewhere, somehow, until the horrors of the big A were over, and coming out from my hidden-place to the .... Oh! bugger it, why wake up false hopes?
That poor deluded woman will in the not to distant future - die, as all the 'mature brothers' of my youth have died and I will also.
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My Last Study Unit - Sigh!!! - If only I'd studied it 65 years ago
by fulltimestudent insemester 2 commences next monday, and the study unit i'm taking will be my last as a undergraduate.
i've spent 8 years wandering around asian (west and east) history, and i should have graduated a year ago, but mu now has a rule that all ugs must take a two units of study outside their field of study.. so starting monday i will apply my mind to the question implicit in the unit's title: .
why people believe weird things: making rational decision's in an irrational world.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------.
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Thnx for all good wishes. And ...
Listener : If you get the chance, it would be great if you could post some of the highlights you come across or conclude.
That's hard to do sometimes, as many 'highlights' have complex backgrounds. But most of the stuff I've posted reflects (in someway) some areas of my studies. Asia, past and present, covers an amazing amount of information.
I post most days on a student societies FB page on Asian studies, in the last few days, topics I've selected range from using predictive modelling to look (in the north of the Indian sub-continent) for Ashoka's Buddhist inscriptions on rocks, to information concerning the Roman Emperor Hadrian's Temple in the Erdek district of Balıkesir in northwest Turkey. to the increase in the number of Australian students now selecting a Chinese University for their studies. to the use of cross-Asia rail by Chinese exporters to Europe, to the radicalisation of Chinese seamen (given refuge in Australia) by Australian left-wingers during WW2, and that is taking increasing amounts of my time.
I joined that group just after it was founded, but after I was given the role of editor, the group management effectually collapsed. I've built readership up from a handful to, for some posts, up to 200 views. Its been an interesting experience.
Listener: I imagine that after 8 years you will miss your studies. Some people continue to study their whole life and find ways of contributing to society.
I'm considering a couple of options. One is to do a Master of Research Post grad course here at Macquarie U. The other, is to undertake a Master's degree in Chinese History at the University of Zhejiang, located in Hangzhou, China. That University is in the top 10 of Chinese universities and I love Hangzhou as a city. The fee is only around Aust.$10,000 (covers fees and accomm, shared room), but I think I stand a chance of a scholarship (not sure how my age would affect that)
