Posted: We dont need your insane suggestions or misplaced hyperbole regarding our politics.
Umm! Really?
The question was raised by a US citizen in a private discussion group.
Happier about it now?
the usa, claiming that the usa supports freedom, has often supported revolutionaries/dissenters in other countries.. some examples:.
currently, the syrian war commenced circa 2011 in the so-called arab spring.
it is claimed that the usa supplied weapons to anti-government forces.
Posted: We dont need your insane suggestions or misplaced hyperbole regarding our politics.
Umm! Really?
The question was raised by a US citizen in a private discussion group.
Happier about it now?
the usa, claiming that the usa supports freedom, has often supported revolutionaries/dissenters in other countries.. some examples:.
currently, the syrian war commenced circa 2011 in the so-called arab spring.
it is claimed that the usa supplied weapons to anti-government forces.
Posted: Somebody innocent is gonna end up shot, on purpose or otherwise.
Yup! That's what we've seen around the world. ... Lots of dead people in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria (and Chile as another poster pointed out), but I'm not sure whether they were shot on purpose or otherwise, except in Chile where anyone killed by Pinochet's thugs was surely killed on purpose
the usa, claiming that the usa supports freedom, has often supported revolutionaries/dissenters in other countries.. some examples:.
currently, the syrian war commenced circa 2011 in the so-called arab spring.
it is claimed that the usa supplied weapons to anti-government forces.
The USA, claiming that the USA supports freedom, has often supported revolutionaries/dissenters in other countries.
Some examples:
Currently, the Syrian war commenced circa 2011 in the so-called Arab Spring. It is claimed that the USA supplied weapons to anti-government forces. There are now a number of factions.
Libya
Afghanistan
Tibet
Now that there are (unarmed, as far as I know), would it be a good thing for these dissenters to accept arms from another nation?
about two years ago i was challenged by a householder to do the research on the subject.
of course thinking it was all bunk i decided to take a look off the reservation.
much to my surprise a lot of started to make sense and i started to understand the connections between the old and new testament .
Previous post: So there is no concept of a preincarnate jesus being a character in the old testament in Wts land?
Response: In the minds of most Christians including the JWS, there is a belief that the OT writers foretold a divine or semi-divine or human figure who would liberate the Jewish people from gentile domination.
The NT writers claim that Jesus fulfilled those OT 'prophecies,' some even suggesting that Jesus claimed fulfillment. Whether he actually did claim that or whether later writers (of the gospels) wrote that he claimed that he fulfilled the OT prophecies cannot be known for sure.
What is sure, is that Jesus died, and outside of the imaginations of believers, has never been heard from again.
Hence he was as much a dupe of the bible, as we ourselves once were.
and if the name jehovah is that important why is it that jesus christ never use that name in a record of scriptures?.
Posted: The most obvious answer is that the diverse books of the Bible were written over an extremely long period of time and the focus of the earlier time period was different from that of later time periods.
Agreed, but with a caveat.
In the period between Alexander the Great's conquest of Cyrus's Iranian (Persian) Empire and the foundation of Christianity big changes took place in Jewish thought. Lot's of things were written (of course) but by Constantine's rule, when he legalised the church, there were long arguments over what to incorporate into the churches collection of authoritative spiritual documents, and they apparently saw no need to give their divinity a name.
i'm sure that most longer term readers on this list know that the use of the number in the revelation was a 'code' using the jewish concept that assigned number values to the letters of the hebrew alphabet.. a promoter of modern judaism ( dr. eliyahu lizorkin-eyzeneberg) explains:.
today gematria is well-known as a jewish interpretive method that assigns numerical values of hebrew letters to words, phrases and/or sentences.
then, by adding them together, seeks to determine their deeper meaning.
I'm sure that most longer term readers on this list know that the use of the number in the Revelation was a 'code' using the Jewish concept that assigned number values to the letters of the Hebrew alphabet.
A promoter of modern Judaism ( Dr. Eliyahu Lizorkin-Eyzeneberg) explains:
Today gematria is well-known as a Jewish interpretive method that assigns numerical values of Hebrew letters to words, phrases and/or sentences. Then, by adding them together, seeks to determine their deeper meaning. Sometimes that connection is farfetched, but sometimes it is quite clear. But was Gematria also present the New Testament? The answer is a clear yes.
Here are two obvious examples among many.
"In Matthew’s genealogy, which shows that Jesus/Yeshua was a descendent of King David, we read “Thus there were fourteen generations in all from Abraham to David, fourteen from David to the exile to Babylon, and fourteen from the exile to the Messiah.” (Mathew 1:17). The numerical value of the Hebrew characters forming the name of the great King of Israel - David (דוד) is 14."
ד (4) + ו (6) + ד (4).
So what about these numbers in Revelation, which have led to so much ignorant speculation?
Lizorkin-Eyzeneberg comments that:
In the Book of Revelation, we read, “Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.” (Rev. 13:18)
Although the beast of the book of Revelation is almost certainly not limited to the first-century, near the time of writing of the Book of Revelation, there was a blood-thirsty persecutor of the early Christ-followers - Nero Caesar, whose name,if counted from Hebrew, had a numeric value of 666. Interestingly, according to tradition, both Peter and Paul were martyred during his reign. It is likely that Nero Caesar was a symbolic figure of all future government-sponsored persecutions.
So that could account for the 666 option, but what about 616?
Here's his answer, in translation, if you apply gematria to Latin,... he argues::
If the original identification of the beast as Emperor Nero is correct, this explains why some early manuscripts of the Book of Revelation have 616 instead of 666 as the number of the beast. This is the numeric value of Emperor Nero's name calculated from Latin.
That explanation came from an email circular that Dr. Eliyahu Lizorkin-Eyzeneberg sends out to promote his version of contemporary Judaism.
i wanted to take an objective look at satan in the story of creation.
this is not meant to offend those of you who are still christians.
i'm agnostic btw.
Haha !
There is little evidence (outside of the Jewish documents incorporated into the bible) that belief in a spiritual opponent to YHWH existed before the second temple era (that is, after the Babylonian exile of the Jewish elite).
Most scholarship sees the rise of belief in two figures who are opposed to each other and spoken of in terms like good and evil, and light and darkness as the influence of Zoroastrianism on the Jewish elite.
The garden of Eden story in Genesis is pure mythology, best described as a foundation myth.
Crazyguy's explanation is also importatn in understanding how Jewish thought developed.
we've seen one backflip.
crooked hillary became a hard-working woman who deserves the nations praise (in his victory speech);.
now according to a uk newspaper:.
More grins - That Bloody wall he promised so often to build ...
Quote: "Washington: President-elect Donald Trump backed away from his promise to build a wall on the US-Mexican border, saying some areas could instead be "fencing," and added he would move to deport up to 3 million immigrants in the country illegally who have criminal records.
Trump, who made his pledge to force Mexico to pay for a border wall a centrepiece of his White House campaign, said "for certain areas" he would accept fencing instead of a brick-and-mortar wall, according to excerpts released on Sunday of his interview with the CBS program "60 Minutes.""
indicative of the changes in the chinese economy, the 'singles day' sales have just been held and alibaba, the web based, chinese marketing company made record sales in one day.. http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/retail/inside-the-worlds-biggest-shopping-event/news-story/ddf8e2794db542d33018002747ac70ae.
For the first time customers could use virtual reality to inspect the items they were interested in buying. With 176,000 orders being placed every second, delivery becomes a major priority.
Special arrangements were made to use some of the 22,000 km of very fast train tracks to help in the delivery process.
indicative of the changes in the chinese economy, the 'singles day' sales have just been held and alibaba, the web based, chinese marketing company made record sales in one day.. http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/retail/inside-the-worlds-biggest-shopping-event/news-story/ddf8e2794db542d33018002747ac70ae.
Indicative of the changes in the Chinese economy, the 'Singles Day' sales have just been held and Alibaba, the web based, Chinese marketing company made record sales in one day.