Some corrections:
Two hostages dead plus the gunman.
The gunman is regarded as a mentally unstable person, who failed in a court action last week.
This video from the Canberra Times explains a lot:
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Is is Muslim terrorist cafe seige Sydney...hundreds of hostages! looks bad.
by Witness 007 inlindt chocalate cafe martin place in city people pressed against the glass with hands up...this will not end well..
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Is is Muslim terrorist cafe seige Sydney...hundreds of hostages! looks bad.
by Witness 007 inlindt chocalate cafe martin place in city people pressed against the glass with hands up...this will not end well..
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fulltimestudent
First, its a highly visible location, opposite the studio of a major TV station.
Second, the street, Martin Place carries a lot of symbolism in Sydney. At the top of Martin Place, there is a T intersection with a major 'Government' street with Parliament house, and in Martin Place in the next block down is a major war memorial.
I think that explains the symbolism.
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Greek Mythology influence on New Testament
by Magnum ina few days ago, i was in a book store, and i picked up a book providing a brief overview of classical mythology.
as i examined the opening pages, i read about tartaurus (place of punishment) and hades (god of the underworld).. it seems so odd that tartarus and hades would be mentioned in the new testament, and yet they were part of greek mythology which predated the new testament.
why would bible writers have used such terms?
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Magnum: I'm still trying to process the fact that what I once so strongly believed in might not be what I thought it was. My life was profoundly influenced by the Bible for at least four decades, and now I'm beginning to have serious doubts about its being what I thought it was.
Same problem, also 40 years of mental imprisonment.
But now I am Free!
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Greek Mythology influence on New Testament
by Magnum ina few days ago, i was in a book store, and i picked up a book providing a brief overview of classical mythology.
as i examined the opening pages, i read about tartaurus (place of punishment) and hades (god of the underworld).. it seems so odd that tartarus and hades would be mentioned in the new testament, and yet they were part of greek mythology which predated the new testament.
why would bible writers have used such terms?
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fulltimestudent
Further Jewish intermingling with other cultures and their thought.
The captivity in Babylon have brought the captive Jews face to face with another more powerful culture and the mythical stories of the Babylonians.
And, then came the defeat of the Babylonians by the Persians (Iranians). This was a powerful influence, as the Jewish writers makes Yahwehsay that Cyrus was his shepherd. (Isaiah 44:28). And that Cyrus was Yahweh's 'Christ.' It would also have brought them into contact with proto-Zoroastrianism and the idea of dualism.
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Is is Muslim terrorist cafe seige Sydney...hundreds of hostages! looks bad.
by Witness 007 inlindt chocalate cafe martin place in city people pressed against the glass with hands up...this will not end well..
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Is is Muslim terrorist cafe seige Sydney...hundreds of hostages! looks bad.
by Witness 007 inlindt chocalate cafe martin place in city people pressed against the glass with hands up...this will not end well..
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fulltimestudent
From a news report:
The Martin Place studio is Seven's main newsroom and home to breakfast show Sunrise andThe Morning Show, which was on air when news of the siege broke about 9.45am.
The network was originally running a live-stream of the siege, but was asked to take it down for security reasons.
Police with guns drawn in Martin Place in a screengrab. Photo: Channel Seven
It is unknown if any Seven staff are among the hostages.
State Parliament, which is one block away from the cafe, has also been closed to the public, while David Jones's flagship store in the city was also being evacuated.
Terrified customers in the cafe could be seen holding an Islamic flag - which is black with white writing on it - up against the glass window. The flag appears to be a Shahada flag, not an Islamic State flag, but is associated with Islamist and jihadist movements.
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Elders and priests what 's the difference?
by sparrowdown inis being a "good" elder the same as being a "good" catholic priest?.
is there any difference between representing the rcc and representing that other bastion of child abuse the wt?.
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fulltimestudent
There's another question that is appropriate here. What were the educational qualifications for 'elders' in the first century?
And, what educational qualifications did Jesus and his chosen 12 have?
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Greek Mythology influence on New Testament
by Magnum ina few days ago, i was in a book store, and i picked up a book providing a brief overview of classical mythology.
as i examined the opening pages, i read about tartaurus (place of punishment) and hades (god of the underworld).. it seems so odd that tartarus and hades would be mentioned in the new testament, and yet they were part of greek mythology which predated the new testament.
why would bible writers have used such terms?
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fulltimestudent
But the Egyptian "contamination" is only the beginning - there is more, much more.
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Greek Mythology influence on New Testament
by Magnum ina few days ago, i was in a book store, and i picked up a book providing a brief overview of classical mythology.
as i examined the opening pages, i read about tartaurus (place of punishment) and hades (god of the underworld).. it seems so odd that tartarus and hades would be mentioned in the new testament, and yet they were part of greek mythology which predated the new testament.
why would bible writers have used such terms?
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fulltimestudent
It can be shown that the 'Holy writings' of both Jews and Christians is influenced by the beliefs of the pagans who lived around and with them. There never was a 'pure stream' of truth.
In Judaism's traditions, the collation of the 'holy writings' is assigned to Moses. Regarding Moses, it is acknowledged in the NT, that:
"Moses was instructed in all the wisdom of the Egyptians." (Acts 7:22, NWT)
The usual narrative of Jewish contact with Egypt places the Jews (Israelites) as captives in Egypt, and Moses becomes a deliverer. Whatever incidents that tradition may have for a foundation, we are on surer ground when we learn that Egyptian Empires often controlled the area we call Palestine, so that there is grounds to think of continual contact between Egypt and Judah. And when you set Egyptian creation mythology alongside Biblical creation mythology, the connection is clear.
I'm asserting that, but if anyone thinks that this assertion is not true, go check it out for yourself.
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Greek Mythology influence on New Testament
by Magnum ina few days ago, i was in a book store, and i picked up a book providing a brief overview of classical mythology.
as i examined the opening pages, i read about tartaurus (place of punishment) and hades (god of the underworld).. it seems so odd that tartarus and hades would be mentioned in the new testament, and yet they were part of greek mythology which predated the new testament.
why would bible writers have used such terms?
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fulltimestudent
Magnum: It seems so odd that Tartarus and Hades would be mentioned in the New Testament , and yet they were part of Greek Mythology which predated the New Testament. Why would Bible writers have used such terms? To what extent and how might they have been influenced by Greek Mythology? Did the terms have an origin that predated Greek mythology, allowing for the argument that Bible writers didn’t get the terms from it, but from a source predating it?
Yes, Magnum, it does seem odd, and like you I once wondered why the NT writers would use these words?
But we wonder, because there exists within Christian ideology a misunderstanding. The misunderstanding is that we have within Judaism and Christianity a pure stream of information that outlines Yahweh's dealings with mankind and that this 'pure stream' is uncomtaminated by pagan mythology.
But stop and think, is it really like that?
