A USA/International viewpoint is provided in this video:
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Australia's Experience in the 1918-19 Influenza Pandemic.
by fulltimestudent ini've no idea how my former loving brothers explain the pale horseman's pandemics (rev.
6:8) these days, but when i was stupid enough to get involved with them, the "spanish flu pandemic' was the star example in the jws narrative claiming the end was nigh.
anyway, i noted this video on youtube and though it may interest thoughful readers here.. .
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Australia's Experience in the 1918-19 Influenza Pandemic.
by fulltimestudent ini've no idea how my former loving brothers explain the pale horseman's pandemics (rev.
6:8) these days, but when i was stupid enough to get involved with them, the "spanish flu pandemic' was the star example in the jws narrative claiming the end was nigh.
anyway, i noted this video on youtube and though it may interest thoughful readers here.. .
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I've no idea how my former loving brothers explain the Pale horseman's pandemics (Rev. 6:8) these days, but when I was stupid enough to get involved with them, the "Spanish flu pandemic' was the star example in the jws narrative claiming the end was nigh.
Anyway, I noted this video on Youtube and though it may interest thoughful readers here.
Spanish flu vs COVID-19: An Australian perspective of a pandemic
This ABC media* video records the experiences of Australians in the 1918-1919 so-called 'Spanish' Flu pandemic. (This pandemic did not start in Spain. Spain was the only neutral nation in Europe in WW1 and its newspapers were not censored censored as were most other nations, so those who knew about the epidemic started referring to it as the 'Spanish flu.'). It is generally accepted that this pandemic first came to notice in a U.S Army camp in Kansas (although, I've seen some claims that it started in Texas). In 1918. Australia's population was 5 million and 15,000 died. The current estimate (maybe that should be (guestimate) is 100 million deaths.
Australia's national government protected the country for a while by limiting maritime access, but eventually this very contagious pneumonic influenza penetrated that effort to quarantine the nation.
* ABC Media is a government owned media group
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YmOnJim5wU
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CO said; “Friends (plural) who’ve been raised in the truth are beginning to have doubts regarding their faith”
by pistolpete inhere is what a co said at the elders and ms meeting.
it goes to show that no matter how hard the governing body tries to instill fear of apostates, it's just not working on the young crowd of jws.. it's a new generations of born in jws--------and they don't buy this shit anymore.
it's really over for the watchtower.
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I doubt that this phenomenon applies only to witnesses. It's likely a global trend.
Here's a gallup poll headline from March 2021, describing the down trend in the USA:
U.S. Church Membership Falls Below Majority for First Time - BY JEFFREY M. JONES
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
In 2020, 47% of U.S. adults belonged to a church, synagogue or mosque
Down more than 20 points from turn of the century
Change primarily due to rise in Americans with no religious preferenceWASHINGTON, D.C. -- Americans' membership in houses of worship continued to decline last year, dropping below 50% for the first time in Gallup's eight-decade trend. In 2020, 47% of Americans said they belonged to a church, synagogue or mosque, down from 50% in 2018 and 70% in 1999.
Link: https://news.gallup.com/poll/341963/church-membership-falls-below-majority-first-time.aspx
The trend is clear. A majority of Americans are now NOT Xtian.
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Serious Question: Are You Hearing About Anyone With The Flu Anymore or A Cold?
by minimus infor years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.
because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.
now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.
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Some may find this discussion in The Scientist informative:
Titled: The Pandemic Crushed the Flu—What Happens When It Returns?
It discusses the so-called disappearance of flu and possible implications/\.
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Serious Question: Are You Hearing About Anyone With The Flu Anymore or A Cold?
by minimus infor years everyone was told they had to get the flu shot.
because the flu was dangerous and it could even kill you.
now, hardly anyone talks about the flu or having a cold.
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minimus: (quote): "Funny thing, my girlfriend at the end of 2019 developed what the doctors called “the flu”. She had respiratory issues suddenly and they prescribed an inhaler."
It's impossible (without tests) to identify the respiratory problems experienced by your girlfriend.
However, it may have been covid19. The USA based journal The Scientist published this report, under the heading. "New Evidence Shows COVID-19 Was in US Weeks Before Thought." (The Scientist-21/17/2021)
Here's more from the article: "In a study published in Clinical Infectious Diseases June 15, researchers analyzed blood collected between January 2 and March 18, 2020, and found antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 in samples from nine people in five US states, meaning that the virus was likely present in the US in late 2019.
“We suspected that there were probably cases that preceded the ones that were diagnosed and confirmed. This is very suggestive that there were probably multiple exposures prior to those initial cases,” says Ashley St. John, an infectious disease researcher at Duke-NUS Medical School in Singapore who was not involved in the study. "
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Did Australia Just Miss an Outbreak of Disease Caused by a Bat Virus.
by fulltimestudent indid australia just miss an outbreak of disease caused by a bat virus.. .
the story of the hendra virus.. .
shared from abc news ( abc media is a government owned news service).
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Did Australia Just Miss an Outbreak of Disease Caused by a Bat Virus.The story of the Hendra Virus.Shared from ABC News ( ABC Media is a Government owned News Service) -
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Delta Variant task force
by DATA-DOG inare you ready for the delta variant task force, funded by bill gates to come to your home?
after mass censorship and in some cases arrests ( australia ) for speaking out against lockdowns, or the dangers of untested medical procedures, we now have morons who want to send people to your home, to remove infected family members.... how will you know you’re infected??
a pcr test cranked up to detect anything of course!
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Quote: "Why haven’t more American citizens suffered the abuses taking place in Europe, Australia, India, or Canada? Because we have guns."
Sorry, cant help doing this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tkYdi81IKI
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Devout JW's Beat Their 12 Year Old Daughter to Death
by Sea Breeze ini know this happened several years ago but.... holy christ!
they beat the poor girl 160 times with a 3/4 inch cable!
"in a slow, steady voice, assistant state's atty.
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Not my story, ( I was a teen-age convert) - but the physical abuse of a young girl by her father.
This happened back in the early 1960's, another Jw father decided to move his family to another little country (under the Aussie branch office), under the "Serving where the need is Great" program. There was a small existing congregation, and at one meeting for field service, the father lost his temper with his (about 17 y.o.) daughter who according to my informant (another JW) was quite a well-behaved girl. The father picked up a length of timber (3"x4"-according to this eye-witness) and started bashing into his daughter. He did so with such anger that other brothers present had to physically restrain him.
What caused this display of brutality? It seems the daughter had attracted the attention of a young witness from the local congregation, and the father had forbidden her to talk to him. At that FS meeting they had smiled at each other, the father had seen that and that caused him to lose control.
Not exactly the right way to guide young ones !!!
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Converted Greek Philosopher Explains Christianity in 125 AD
by Sea Breeze ini ran across a pretty early treatise.
we were all taught that "real" christianity was lost to history and was only restored once russell and then rutherford restored it so that the wt could be appointed as god's "mouthpiece".
but, aristides wrote to the emperor hadrian and gave a pretty good synopsis of core christian belief in 125 ad.
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Disillusioned JW - I read, in a book by the Jewish scholar named Hugh J. Schonfield, that during the intertestamental period the Hellenistic Jews made pious frauds to promote Judaism.
All true, DJW! That's the point that Sea Breeze missed in his reaction to my post about that document.
The document being discussed exists, but what evidence exists that the Apology of Aristides was written by him at the time claimed? If we project out minds back and imagine life in that era we would find that life was different, the ways we prove something is genuine today was not possible then,
G. C. O'Ceallaigh in his review,""Marcianus" Aristides, On the Worship of God," claims to have found evidence that the document started its existence as a "counter attack on polytheists and their religious notions and secondarily, as a defense of the monotheistic worship and the morals of the Jews " by a convert to hellenised Judaism. And then, that document was. "interpolated and “edited” by a Christian writer," in the late 300s CE and re-titled as the Apology of Aristides as a defence of christianity;
Geza Vermes, a recognised scholar of the Dead Sea Scrolls, (in his 'The Complete Dead Sea Scrolls in English' points out that similar editing occurred among the cultic group that produced the DDS.
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Converted Greek Philosopher Explains Christianity in 125 AD
by Sea Breeze ini ran across a pretty early treatise.
we were all taught that "real" christianity was lost to history and was only restored once russell and then rutherford restored it so that the wt could be appointed as god's "mouthpiece".
but, aristides wrote to the emperor hadrian and gave a pretty good synopsis of core christian belief in 125 ad.
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In passing, its interesting to know that the Emperor Hadrian established and supported another cult religion.
Here's Wikipedia description (an extract from the fuller entry on Hadrian):
Hadrian had Antinous deified as Osiris-Antinous by an Egyptian priest at the ancient Temple of Ramesses II, very near the place of his death. Hadrian dedicated a new temple-city complex there, built in a Graeco-Roman style, and named it Antinoöpolis.[227] It was a proper Greek polis; it was granted an Imperially subsidised alimentary scheme similar to Trajan's alimenta,[228] and its citizens were allowed intermarriage with members of the native population, without loss of citizen-status. Hadrian thus identified an existing native cult (to Osiris) with Roman rule.[229] The cult of Antinous was to become very popular in the Greek-speaking world, and also found support in the West. In Hadrian's villa, statues of the Tyrannicides, with a bearded Aristogeiton and a clean-shaven Harmodios, linked his favourite to the classical tradition of Greek love.[230] In the west, Antinous was identified with the Celtic sun-god Belenos.[231]
Hadrian was criticised for the open intensity of his grief at Antinous's death, ....] Nevertheless, his recreation of the deceased youth as a cult-figure found little opposition.[233] Though not a subject of the state-sponsored, official Roman imperial cult, Antinous offered a common focus for the emperor and his subjects, emphasising their sense of community.[234] Medals were struck with his effigy, and statues erected to him in all parts of the empire, in all kinds of garb, including Egyptian dress.[235] Temples were built for his worship in Bithynia and Mantineia in Arcadia. In Athens, festivals were celebrated in his honour and oracles delivered in his name. As an "international" cult figure, Antinous had an enduring fame, far outlasting Hadrian's reign.[236] Local coins with his effigy were still being struck during Caracalla's reign, and he was invoked in a poem to celebrate the accession of Diocletian.[237]
Why did Hadrian do that, because the handsome young man. Antinous, was his his devoted lover.