I just read the article. All I saw was that the author said that there are philosophical arguments for God, but one would have to go look them up, and I would look up the atheist rebuttals to them as well. I don't want to go any further off topic on this thread. If you think the FSM argument is a fallacy, you might want to start a new thread about it.
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How evangelicals and Witnesses are alike
by jgnat inboth believe in the inerrancy of the bible (psalms 12:6, 119:89, proverbs 30:5-6, 2 timothy 3:16-17, 2 peter 1:20-21, rev 22:18-19) and in their absolute correct interpretation.both believe that the other is apostate (2 thessalonians 2:3-4).both believe that the others doctrine is influenced by the devil (genesis 3:1-15, john 8:44).both believe the other is condemned for their false beliefs (2 peter 2:1-3, 1 timothy 4:1-3, 2 timothy 2:16-19, hebrews 6:4-8).neither would darken the door of the others sanctuary, for fear of contamination.both would avoid casual association (proverbs 13:20, 1 corinthians 5:11, 15:33), and certainly would not marry the other (2 corinthians 6:14).both believe that armageddon is imminent and look forward to the purified world afterwards.both consider that the highest form of charity is to convert another.
practical works like feeding the poor are considered inferior.more?
can we make it a dozen (a more perfect number)?.
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How evangelicals and Witnesses are alike
by jgnat inboth believe in the inerrancy of the bible (psalms 12:6, 119:89, proverbs 30:5-6, 2 timothy 3:16-17, 2 peter 1:20-21, rev 22:18-19) and in their absolute correct interpretation.both believe that the other is apostate (2 thessalonians 2:3-4).both believe that the others doctrine is influenced by the devil (genesis 3:1-15, john 8:44).both believe the other is condemned for their false beliefs (2 peter 2:1-3, 1 timothy 4:1-3, 2 timothy 2:16-19, hebrews 6:4-8).neither would darken the door of the others sanctuary, for fear of contamination.both would avoid casual association (proverbs 13:20, 1 corinthians 5:11, 15:33), and certainly would not marry the other (2 corinthians 6:14).both believe that armageddon is imminent and look forward to the purified world afterwards.both consider that the highest form of charity is to convert another.
practical works like feeding the poor are considered inferior.more?
can we make it a dozen (a more perfect number)?.
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InterestedOne
Highlight the text of the address you pasted. In the second row of editor toolbars, you will see a little chainlink icon become ungreyed. You can click on it, and a window will pop up asking if you want to make it a link.
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How evangelicals and Witnesses are alike
by jgnat inboth believe in the inerrancy of the bible (psalms 12:6, 119:89, proverbs 30:5-6, 2 timothy 3:16-17, 2 peter 1:20-21, rev 22:18-19) and in their absolute correct interpretation.both believe that the other is apostate (2 thessalonians 2:3-4).both believe that the others doctrine is influenced by the devil (genesis 3:1-15, john 8:44).both believe the other is condemned for their false beliefs (2 peter 2:1-3, 1 timothy 4:1-3, 2 timothy 2:16-19, hebrews 6:4-8).neither would darken the door of the others sanctuary, for fear of contamination.both would avoid casual association (proverbs 13:20, 1 corinthians 5:11, 15:33), and certainly would not marry the other (2 corinthians 6:14).both believe that armageddon is imminent and look forward to the purified world afterwards.both consider that the highest form of charity is to convert another.
practical works like feeding the poor are considered inferior.more?
can we make it a dozen (a more perfect number)?.
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godrulz wrote
it is fallacious that there is the same evidence for God as the FSM
Can you point me to a link explaining the fallacy? If you're not sure how to do links, notice in the editor that if you paste a link, you can highlight it and click the button in the toolbar with the little chain link icon.
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How evangelicals and Witnesses are alike
by jgnat inboth believe in the inerrancy of the bible (psalms 12:6, 119:89, proverbs 30:5-6, 2 timothy 3:16-17, 2 peter 1:20-21, rev 22:18-19) and in their absolute correct interpretation.both believe that the other is apostate (2 thessalonians 2:3-4).both believe that the others doctrine is influenced by the devil (genesis 3:1-15, john 8:44).both believe the other is condemned for their false beliefs (2 peter 2:1-3, 1 timothy 4:1-3, 2 timothy 2:16-19, hebrews 6:4-8).neither would darken the door of the others sanctuary, for fear of contamination.both would avoid casual association (proverbs 13:20, 1 corinthians 5:11, 15:33), and certainly would not marry the other (2 corinthians 6:14).both believe that armageddon is imminent and look forward to the purified world afterwards.both consider that the highest form of charity is to convert another.
practical works like feeding the poor are considered inferior.more?
can we make it a dozen (a more perfect number)?.
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Yes, godrulz, acceptance of Odin is salvific.
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The Christian Onslaught
by satinka in*sigh* i have been noticing lately there are a number of groups of "christians" signing up as members of this forum, with the obvious agenda of gaining converts for their own cult-like religions.
i have been wondering things like:.
hmmm...maybe i'll try ignoring them.. thank you simon for the space to vent.. satinka.
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Ha ha. I just looked up that verse in the JW bible. Superfine. That is funny.
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The Christian Onslaught
by satinka in*sigh* i have been noticing lately there are a number of groups of "christians" signing up as members of this forum, with the obvious agenda of gaining converts for their own cult-like religions.
i have been wondering things like:.
hmmm...maybe i'll try ignoring them.. thank you simon for the space to vent.. satinka.
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InterestedOne
Satinka - Here's one more validation. Also, this is my first time hearing the word "superfine," and I think it sums up the situation well. Is that JW slang, like how they use the word "fine" all the time?
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Anyone understand the Federal Reserve System?
by AK - Jeff inbut i want to educate myself.
like all jw's, i didn't give a shit about those sorts of things, unless there was an article in the magazine we were placing that month.
and even then, a very shallow understanding is all that i wanted or needed to 'place' the magazine.
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Although I've heard he's a little kooky, I thought G. Edward Griffin's book "The Creature From Jekyll Island" was pretty interesting.
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How is it that well educated and financially stable people become Jehovah's Witnesses?
by 21stcenturywoman inwhen i was growing up most of the jws around me were poor and lower middle class.
some were middle class, but very few were upper middle class.
only (maybe) about 1% were college educated.
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My JW friend comes from an upper middle class non-JW household & converted to JW in her mid-late 20's. She was coming out of an abusive relationship. She had a JW friend who talked to her during her difficult time & indoctrinated her. She was vulnerable, and the recruitment tactics worked. Now when we speak, I can also see that the tactics for retaining members are working with her, e.g. exploiting her feelings of loyalty - not wanting to feel like she went back on her commitment. Bastards.
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Most recent Society lies about 1914?
by Essan inas i'm sure we all know, the society has lied repeatedly in the past about what they preached regarding 1914 in the run up to that year, claiming that what was preached was that jesus was to become king in that year and his presence was to begin then etc, when in fact they were preaching that all this had already happened in 1874 and that the end of the world would come in 1914.. .
but does anyone know if they have repeated this lie about what they supposedly preached recently?
when was the last time they claimed this?
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Essan - Thank you for clarifying. Are you able to place the original quotations/calculations of the 19th century "sincere Bible students" side-by-side with the two paragraphs I quoted from the Bible Teach book? I think it would be very revealing to look at them to see the lie clearly. Unfortunately, I don't know what the exact original quotes are. To clearly show the lie, the original quotes would need to be directly applicable - apples to apples comparison. I've noticed the WT does a lot of wordsmithing in how they refer to and interpret the old quotes to make it seem like they aren't lying. Can you do the comparison to demonstrate the parts of your last post where you said "lie" and "utter lie" or point me to where someone else has already done so?
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JWs Not Allowed to Post on Websites?
by StandFirm inthis seems to be a favorite topic to bring up to any witnesses who post on any website where there are any opposers, either here or topix or anywhere.. so, here is the one and only place i will be discussing it.
who can prove that witnesses are specifically told not to post on websites about them?.
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StandFirm wrote:
palmtree67: The tone of the suggestion is also important. There is a difference between 'there are dangers in...' and 'You must not...'.
Notice the use of the word "we" in the July 15th, 2011 WT which says:
What is involved in avoiding false teachers? We do not receive them into our homes or greet them. We also refuse to read their literature, watch TV programs that feature them, examine their Web sites, or add our comments to their blogs.
They are saying that "we" refuse to do the items listed. Who could "we" refer to other than all JW's? To me, this looks equivalent to them saying that if you consider yourself a JW, "you must not..." because "we" do not do the items listed. If you do one of the items, you are doing something in conflict with what "we" (all JW's) do.
Regarding the elders, apart from them not liking it, if they judge that you are doing something in conflict with what "we" (all JW's) do by reading and posting here, I would think they would consider you no longer one of "we" unless you stop. It's one thing to say it is not their place to judge your entertainment choices, but if they knew you read & post here, would they just not like it, or is it probable that they would they see it as being in conflict with what "we" (all JW's) do?