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  The Doctrine of Hell

  by Yizuman in

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  is the doctrine of hell a hindrance or a help in witnessing?

  many evangelicals are ashamed of this biblical doctrine, viewing it as a blemish to be covered up by the cosmetic of divine love.

  but this dishonors gods word.

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  You all should read this book from Stewart Salmond

  The Christian Doctrine of Immortality
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  Not Saluting The Flag Singing The Nat' Anthem, H

  by Celtic in

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  2. friends

  not saluting the national flag or standing up to sing the national anthem of your particular country, how did this make you feel at school and what were the reactions of your class mates?.

  in your jw upbringings, any other funny, weird or mad school time experiences to share, where there seemed great conflicts of interest, and again, how did these make you feel?

  with these experiences in mind, how did it shape you into an individual, and finally which specific emotions did you notice within yourselves as you were growing up?.

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  The Watchtower frowns upon civil involvement. JWs are not allowed to vote, join trade unions, salute the flag, or serve in the military. All forms of patriotism and political activity are forbidden, on grounds that these activities are "worldly." The Bible commands no such thing, and advises Christians to be in subjection to civil authorities (Romans 13:1-7). The Apostle Paul even appealed to his Roman citizenship and to Caesar in order to fight an unjust accusation (Acts 21:39, 22:25-29, 25:11). Christians are to be the "salt of the earth" (Mt 5:13). Salt in the ancient world was a preserver. We cannot preserve, let alone transform, the institutions of the world if we withdraw from them. Charles Taze Russell, the JW Founder, would today be disfellowshiped for his view on military service:

  There could be nothing against our conscience in going into the army.

  (WT, 15 April 1903, 3179-3180 in reprint)
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  The Doctrine of Hell

  by Yizuman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is the doctrine of hell a hindrance or a help in witnessing?

  many evangelicals are ashamed of this biblical doctrine, viewing it as a blemish to be covered up by the cosmetic of divine love.

  but this dishonors gods word.

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  aqwsed12345

  Sheol

  This word is used in the Old Testament for the place of the dead . . . In the later Jewish literature we meet with the idea of divisions within Sheol for the wicked and the righteous, in which each experiences a foretaste of his final destiny . . .

  (The New Bible Dictionary, J.D. Douglas, editor, Grand Rapids, MI: Eerdmans, 1962, 518)

  The Hebrew word designating the unseen abode of the dead; a neutral word, presupposing neither misery nor happiness.

  (Augustus H. Strong, Systematic Theology, Westwood, NJ: Fleming H. Revell, 1907, 994)

  While the word Sheol, does not pointedly refer to a definitive doctrine of endless retribution, but rather to a shadowy existence beyond the grave, it nevertheless reflects the belief in a future and continued existence.

  (Merrill C. Tenney, Pictorial Bible Dictionary, Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, rev. ed., 1967, 346)

  Hades

  The region of departed spirits of the lost (but including the blessed dead in periods preceding the Ascension of Christ) . . . It corresponds to Sheol in the O.T. IN the KJV . . . it has unhappily been rendered "Hell," e.g., Ps. 16:10; or "the grace," e.g., Gen. 37:35 . . . It never denotes the grave, nor is it the permanent region of the lost; in point of time it is, for such, intermediate between decease and the doom of Gehenna. For the condition, see Luke 16:23-31.

  (W.E. Vine, An Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words, Old Tappan, NJ: Fleming H. Revell, 1940; under "Hades")

  . . . the nether world, the realm of the dead . . . In the Septuagint the Hebrew Sheol is almost always rendered by this word . . . the infernal regions, a dark and dismal place . . . the common receptacle of disembodied spirits.

  (Joseph Thayer, Greek-English Lexicon of the NT, 11)

  Gehenna / Hell / The Lake of Fire

  . . . It is the loss of all good . . . and the misery of an evil conscience banished from God and from the society of the holy, and dwelling under God's positive curse forever . . . The decisive and controlling element is not the outward, but the inward . . . The figurative language of Scripture is a miniature representation of what cannot be fully described in words . . . the unholiness and separation from God of a guilty and accusing conscience, of which fire and brimstone are symbols . . . the future punishment of the wicked is not annihilation . . . the wicked enter at death upon a state of conscious suffering which the resurrection and the judgment only augment and render permanent.

  (Augustus H. Strong, Systematic Theology, Westwood, NJ: Fleming H. Revell, 1907, 1033-1036)
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  A site that agrees with 607 BCE

  by wannabefree in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  while doing research this morning, i came across the following website .... http://www.abc-of-christianity.com/info/740-607-judah.asp.

  i can't see a religious affiliation, although i am inclined to think a possible adventist connection.. i could not find a referral to it here, just wondering if anybody has any info on this.

  i thought jw's were the only ones who held to the 607 date..

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  http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/607-1914.php

  http://www.carm.org/1914-ad-607-bc-586-bc-and-jehovahs-witnesses

  http://144000.110mb.com/607/index.html

  http://www.607v587.com
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  'Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism'

  by aqwsed12345 in

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  do somebody know this book?.

  robert jay lifton: thought reform and the psychology of totalism.

  could you give me some description?

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  aqwsed12345

  Do somebody know this book?

  Robert Jay Lifton: Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism

  Could you give me some description? How these mind control techniques is applicable to the Watchtowe-system?
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  According to fundi Christians, where did people go when they died pre-ransom?

  by sabastious in

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  before jesus offered the ransom, where did people go when they died?.

  -sab.

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  The Limbo of the Fathers (limbus patrum) was the abode of people who, before Jesus' Resurrection, had died in the friendship of God, but had to wait for Christ to open heaven's gates.
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  The Doctrine of Hell

  by Yizuman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is the doctrine of hell a hindrance or a help in witnessing?

  many evangelicals are ashamed of this biblical doctrine, viewing it as a blemish to be covered up by the cosmetic of divine love.

  but this dishonors gods word.

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  Biblical Evidence for an Eternal Hell
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  The Trinity Is A False Doctrine!

  by non_trias_theos in

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  christendom teaches that there are three persons in one substance.

  yet there is not three gods but one god.

  what could be more unscriptural and illogical?

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  The Church expresses her trinitarian faith by professing a belief in the oneness of God in whom there are three Persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The three divine Persons are only one God because each of them equally possesses the fullness of the one and indivisible divine nature. They are really distinct from each other by reason of the relations which place them in correspondence to each other. The Father generates the Son; the Son is generated by the Father; the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son.

  The Trinity is One. We do not confess three Gods, but one God in three persons, the consubstantial Trinity. The divine persons do not share the one divinity among themselves but each of them is God whole and entire: The Father is that which the Son is, the Son that which the Father is, the Father and the Son that which the Holy Spirit is, i.e. by nature one God. Each of the persons is that supreme reality, viz., the divine substance, essence or nature.

  The divine persons are really distinct from one another. God is one but not solitary. "Father", "Son", "Holy Spirit" are not simply names designating modalities of the divine being, for they are really distinct from one another: He is not the Father who is the Son, nor is the Son he who is the Father, nor is the Holy Spirit he who is the Father or the Son. They are distinct from one another in their relations of origin: "It is the Father who generates, the Son who is begotten, and the Holy Spirit who proceeds. The divine Unity is Triune.

  The divine persons are relative to one another. Because it does not divide the divine unity, the real distinction of the persons from one another resides solely in the relationships which relate them to one another: In the relational names of the persons the Father is related to the Son, the Son to the Father, and the Holy Spirit to both. While they are called three persons in view of their relations, we believe in one nature or substance. Indeed "everything (in them) is one where there is no opposition of relationship. Because of that unity the Father is wholly in the Son and wholly in the Holy Spirit; the Son is wholly in the Father and wholly in the Holy Spirit; the Holy Spirit is wholly in the Father and wholly in the Son.

  St. Gregory of Nazianzus, also called "the Theologian", entrusts this summary of Trinitarian faith to the catechumens of Constantinople:

  Above all guard for me this great deposit of faith for which I live and fight, which I want to take with me as a companion, and which makes me bear all evils and despise all pleasures: I mean the profession of faith in the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. I entrust it to you today. By it I am soon going to plunge you into water and raise you up from it. I give it to you as the companion and patron of your whole life. I give you but one divinity and power, existing one in three, and containing the three in a distinct way. Divinity without disparity of substance or nature, without superior degree that raises up or inferior degree that casts down. . . the infinite co-naturality of three infinites. Each person considered in himself is entirely God. . . the three considered together. . . I have not even begun to think of unity when the Trinity bathes me in its splendor. I have not even begun to think of the Trinity when unity grasps me. . .
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  Birthdays - most logical explanation...

  by bottleofwater in

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  can someone explain step by step why birthdays don't contradict the bible.. refuting the wts' evidence, including the terms explaining the account of birthdays in the book of job not referring to birthdays according to the wts' explanation?.

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  Sometimes the so-called "pagan orign" is not problem for the Watchtower: wedding anniversaries, wedding rings, ties...
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  What constitutes the Great Apostasy?

  by wannabe in

  1. watchtower
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  what constitutes the great apostasy?.

  the greek word, for apostasy, 'apostasis' has the connotation, of a 'defection from the truth, or 'falling away from'.

  defection, in turn, is defined, as an abandonment of loyalty, or duty; to disjoin, or to forsake.".

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  Were the Early Christians Jehovah’s Witnesses?

  http://www.cephas-library.com/jw_faith_of_our_fathers_1.html

  http://www.cephas-library.com/jw_faith_of_our_fathers_2.html