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Pre-Nicene christians and the trinity
by joey jojo in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
this is just a quick summary that might be useful regarding the threads about the trinity currently on the board.. in 325 ce, the nicene council was called by constantine to settle schisms within the christian church.

the argument about the nature of jesus in relation to god was one of the big problems that needed resolution.

at first, constantine told the 2 main players, alexander and arius to sort it out between themselves, as he, constantine didnt see it as overly important.
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Preaching the "good news" - about whom or what?
by BoogerMan in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
the "good news" was specifically about christ's imminent kingship/rulership in heaven, to be followed by his rulership over the earth.

(matthew 6:10).

basileia (kingdom) - royal power, kingship, dominion, rule: not to be confused with an actual kingdom but rather rulership, the right or authority to rule over a kingdom, of the royal power of jesus as the triumphant messiah.
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The unending and fruitless argument on Trinity
by Longlivetherenegades in
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2. beliefs
those who say they are christians or follow christianity needs .

1. father .

2. jesus .
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What is Your Favorite WT Lie?
by Sea Breeze in
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2. beliefs
i would like to start a thread on lies that the watchtower and their reps have told.

surely we all have one or two that truly sticks out in our memories, no matter how much we would like to forget.

my favorite wt lie: the reason they don't want to release the name of the "scholars" who worked on the new world translation is because they do not want to accept "glory and honor" from others.
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Searching
by Striker in
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2. beliefs
jude 1:9 (kjv) yet michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, the lord rebuke thee.. matthew 4:10 (kjv) then saith jesus unto him, get thee hence, satan: for it is written, thou shalt worship the lord thy god, and him only shalt thou serve.

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.....my understanding is that you all believe jesus is michael the archangel....... the two verses above describe two different personalities..... the archangel in jude rebuked satan in the name of the father, because he knew it was not his place to rebuke him, he knew that he didn't have the authority to do so, that the only person who possesses this authority is god himself.... while jesus, in matthew 4:10, does not need to invoke the name of the father to rebuke satan, because the father and jesus are one, not michael and jesus..... .... because michael the archangel is not jesus christ our savior.....
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Is the JW version of The Lord's Supper really a Parody?
by Sea Breeze in
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2. beliefs
a black mass is a ceremony celebrated by various satanic groups.

it ... is intentionally a sacrilegious and blasphemous parody of a catholic mass.

- wikipedia.
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BABYLON THE GREAT IS NOT FALLING ANYMORE? (NEW LIGHT FROM THE ANNUAL MEETING)
by raymond frantz in
1. watchtower
2. bible
https://youtu.be/rsbfa_7lqv4?si=muuxmgtll1n1ifad.

the watchtower’s babylon the great: a shrinking reality?.

so this latest annual meeting introduced a new idea about babylon the great, and here is the part from geoffrey jackson's talk we real need to dig in and consider it's ramifications..... so you’ve got to hand it to them; they know how to keep things interesting with their ever-evolving interpretations and, of course, those classic "adjustments" in understanding.
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NEW LIGHT ON THE 144,000 EXPLAINED
by raymond frantz in
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2. beliefs
https://youtu.be/heulwyd00ku?si=9az0zrsquy67v74g.

the watchtower’s approach to "new light" is, frankly, a masterclass in manipulation.

when they introduce a new interpretation or change their teachings, it's presented as a revelation, showcasing just how guided and spiritually in-tune the governing body is.
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Even the CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA got it wrong about JW's!
by BoogerMan in
1. watchtower
2. bible
w12 3/1 p. 4 “remain in my word” - "regarding jehovah’s witnesses, the new catholic encyclopedia states: “they regard the bible as their only source of belief and rule of conduct.”" .

time for a revised new catholic encyclopedia to include, "and their g.b.".

w12 4/1 p. 3 in search of answers - "is there one reliable source of information that can give authoritative answers to our questions about jesus?
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Why do most ordinary Christians agree with JWs that Jesus is God’s first creation?
by slimboyfat in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
in a book which attempts to refute jw christology, the trinitarian scholar greg lanier begins his argument with the surprising admission that a majority of evangelical christians agree with jws that jesus is god’s first creation.

a 2018 survey by ligonier ministries and lifeway research found that nearly 95 percent of self-described evangelical christians affirm the trinity, but simultaneously, about 80 percent believe that jesus christ is the "first and greatest being created by god.

" the shocking thing is that these respondents do not appear to realize the stark contradiction in these two positions.. greg lanier, is jesus truly god?