Hope is a powerful thing, false or real. A lot of people held on to their hopes whether it was to fight desease, waiting to be rescued, reading diet books/magazines, giving 2nd chances on things such as relationships. Mankind wants to beleive and have faith. I guess the answer is a disappointment if the effort was based on false foundations. But, mankind still needs to hope in something, until something better comes along. Do you know of anything better?
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Question for believers.
by zound inthis thread is not to try and prove which position is true or false, but i wanted to ask a question to believers.
i'll prelude the question with some examples.. jw's think that their message is true and benificial to others - therefore they knock on doors and informal witness etc.
i think it's safe to say most on this forum agree it is not true and it is in fact harmful (particularly to children) perhaps harmful in ways that the jw is not in a position to appreciate because of his/her warped perspective on things.. on the other hand - if their message was true, and armageddon is coming etc etc, then you could argue that them preaching this stuff is not harmful (actually its morally ambiguous but nevermind that for the time being) because the ends justifies the means - it all comes out in the wash etc.. in turn if mormons message was false then we can agree they are misleading, lying, wasting peoples precious time and lives and ultimately harming children and susceptable people by spreading it.
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Question for believers.
by zound inthis thread is not to try and prove which position is true or false, but i wanted to ask a question to believers.
i'll prelude the question with some examples.. jw's think that their message is true and benificial to others - therefore they knock on doors and informal witness etc.
i think it's safe to say most on this forum agree it is not true and it is in fact harmful (particularly to children) perhaps harmful in ways that the jw is not in a position to appreciate because of his/her warped perspective on things.. on the other hand - if their message was true, and armageddon is coming etc etc, then you could argue that them preaching this stuff is not harmful (actually its morally ambiguous but nevermind that for the time being) because the ends justifies the means - it all comes out in the wash etc.. in turn if mormons message was false then we can agree they are misleading, lying, wasting peoples precious time and lives and ultimately harming children and susceptable people by spreading it.
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Well I'm not a fan of knocking at the doors.
If the message helps a person to kick a nasty addiction, gives hope, improves lives, then what's the harm?
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A real difficult congregation???
by quellycatface inmyself and my family have had some odd experiences in our current congregation.
i have'nt been to meetings since september because of this.. 1. the co told the elder who was studying with my husband that he was doing it as an "academic exercise.
" my husband is very intelligent, been in the military, has a degree and a masters and a good job.
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Hi QCF, and I want to say that being open about your Bipolar condition is very courageos. Your condition is not known by many members of the JW faith and they will not show you any understanding, or, empathy because of ignorance.
I understand it, and I know what you are experiencing. I have a close family member who suffers this. When it became more evident that this condition existed, things went alot better. I understand that you will experience extreme feelings of happiness, followed by long periods of sadness, and tiredness. Good for you that you have a husband that understands, and cares for you.
Billy is right. You can't move around to try and locate another congregation that may be better. The grass is not always greener on the other side of the fence. With your condition you have got to learn the art of forgiveness. Forgiveness, forgiveness, forgiveness, That's what my freind Don Henley said.
Don't try and get the approval of this group.
Believe that there is a Creator that cares for you, and that you are trying to etablish a relationship with him and not imperfect people.
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Who wants to live forever?
by Doug Mason inwhat will living be like after 5 billion years?.
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Well I would probably have tried all of those Kama Sutra positions, but maybe some of those positions will get me destroyed after 1,000 years.
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The effects of shunning on The View
by Rebecca 619 insheri sheppard spoke about this as a ex jw how it affects a person to be dfd,you feel like you loose your identity, its very difficult, i see my son struggling, i wish this practice can be done away with,so hurtful for everyone..
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Gayle is right. We need this exposure to show how cruel the WT Soc takes this missunderstood Christian practice.
The Soc takes this practice too far, and really encroach on the rights of family members.
Good for you, Rebecca for offering support.
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Does anyone know what is happening with Italy's (Rome) Bethel???
by LoisLane looking for Superman inthere are rumors out, that the italy (rome) bethel is being shut down and putting out to pasture a large portion of the bethel staff.. has anyone heard anything... ?.
the word is that everyone but the most senior members will be let go.
the senior bethel family members will be reassigned.
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Sorry, I was away and needed to catch up.
I will comment about the one Co that I know but, do not want to use his name. I remember attending an Elders school over ten years ago when the Soc initiated this Pioneer Assist program. This special program was designed to help the inactive ones. When news broke out about this program the inactive ones in our KH's didn't want others to know that they were inacitive, so they refused this help from the start. It was definetely doomed from the start. But, this Italian CO lied to the Circuit. He stated that it was a program to help some who needed help with Bible studies, RV's, and presentations. He has also lied about other things that have created so much grief amoung the brothers. He is not honest when he talks to you, and he is an organization man first, and will lie and tell you what he thinks you want to hear, but stab you in the back.
Kinda fits in with a mob mentality. No one in our family likes him.
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Emergency relief fund for the Philippines. How will it work.
by joe134cd ini was just thinking it will be interesting to see how the wts emergency relief fund will operate in the philippines.
ok it worked well with the storm in florida, with cashing in on the insurance cheques.
sorry to generalize, but americans have the disposable income, and the insurance polices for things like this - a thing the wtbts finds very attractive.
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i just received a similar email as, dozy.
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School for Couples - Age restriction raised to 65 yrs old
by Quarterback inwtf....apparently there is a new letter that states that the age for qualify for christian couples for serving where there is a new has been raised to 65. previous it was 55 yrs of age..
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That's right, Julia. Most stable couples are still working at age 55, especially in this economy. If someone could retire earlier, they would be facing a penalty from their retirement income. So, it looks like this window has opened up to make it possible for some to wait and retire decently, and afford to finance themselves.
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Watching the Voice right now
by Comatose inthis dude just slayed hallelujah.
slaughtered it.
i don't ever watch this show, but he was awesome.
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That's a great song written by Leonard Cohen.
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WT's 2 BOE Letters Flip-Flop!
by JW GoneBad ineveryone knows about the recent across-the-board okay to use electronic devices in jw worship.
few, though, know about how not long ago it was considered a taboo.. first, there was that dc talk a couple of years back where they nearly demonized simply the ownership of a smart phone, ipads (i phones, blackberries, etc) let alone the use of them at meetings.
they brought out that they were a waste of time, expensive and that they exposed a christian to satan's world on the internet.
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Ooops...got struck with that double virus.