Posts by kes152

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Who ARE the 144,00??

by TallTexan in

there have been a couple of posts recently about the 144,000. since the wt theory is bogus, i ask the forum, "who are the 144,000"?

i know the traditional view of some religions is that they are 144,000 literal jews who will convert near the gt to witness to the jewish population.

not sure that makes a whole lot of sense to me.

Greetings, The 144,000 are direct descendants of the sons of Abraham, through Isaac, and through Jacob (Israel). They are not Jews because the Jews only made up two of the twelve tribes of the sons of Israel (Benjamin and Joseph). The other ten tribes were called Samaritans (dwelling in the land of Samaria). The 144,000 are the firstfruits of the entire nation of Israel. The 144,000 are ones who have been sealed in their foreheads as slaves of the Most High from every tribe of the sons of Israel. They have been sealed with holy spirit and belong to the Christ as 'his' which fulfills God's covenant with his friend, Abraham. After these things, our brother bears witness saying that he sees a great multitude (also in heaven) from every nation, and tribe, and people, and tongue, wearing white robes with palm branches in their hands. These are the nations who JOIN Israel as "fellow heirs" of the kingdom of the heavens and also partake of the holy priesthood and reign with the Christ for a thousand years. All of these have been dressed in white robes that the authority to the tree of life and entrance into the [heavenly] city may be theirs. The 144,000 and the great crowd all share the heavenly inheritance to become sons of the God and begotten by holy spirit by means of the Christ to become 'his' and make up "the TRUE seed of Abraham." Peace be with you, Aaron

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Is God able to help everybody all the time?

by Gopher in

let's assume that there is a creator of life who gots things started eons ago.

that's my persuasion, although i am not actively religious.. one major problem with belief in a creator is that he/she/it is supposed to be benevolent, loving and caring.

many evangelical christians feel he has helped them personally in various ways, emotionally, even financially.

kes152

Greetings Frankie,

you said: "but you should ask yourself this question: If God is directing you to speak to people on this board in a manner that will be most helpful to them personally then why have none on this board ever taken you seriously???? "

Frankie, this question is based upon your assumption that no one on this board has taken what I hear seriously. This is a false assumption. There are many here on this board who have taken me seriously, as well as many on other message boards to which I have been sent and many of them have taken me seriously. I hope this helps answer your inquiry.. peace be with you.

Aaron

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Is God able to help everybody all the time?

by Gopher in

let's assume that there is a creator of life who gots things started eons ago.

that's my persuasion, although i am not actively religious.. one major problem with belief in a creator is that he/she/it is supposed to be benevolent, loving and caring.

many evangelical christians feel he has helped them personally in various ways, emotionally, even financially.

kes152

Greetings Frankie,

you asked: "Well it seem pretty stupid for God to direct you to use the bible when it is full of false statements don't it? "

Truthfully no. As mentioned to you before, not everything in the Bible is false. When someone needs to hear it from the Bible and will not accept anything unless it is in the Bible, God can use the Bible to reveal what is true and reveal what is false. In this way, the one who 'needs' it from the Bible gets the witness they asked for. There are many false statements in the Bible, however, there are many true statements in the Bible. If you read them both, you would know what is false and what is true, what is correct and what has been tampered with.

you said: "Sound more like you just pick and choose according to what scriptures you need and which ones you don't,,what you imagine to be God's bearing witness is just your own mind picking and choosing but like C T Russell you can't tell the difference. "

You say this because you do not know the things of the spirit. Something was told to you in Spirit and you look at it in terms of the flesh. The flesh does not receive the things of the Spirit and it is for this reason you do not know what it is like when God's spirit bears witness with your spirit. To your flesh it sounds like mind picking because your flesh does not know the things of God. Therefore, your flesh cannot tell the difference.

you said: " I don't think you can tell the difference between your own thoughts and what you imagine to be God's words."

Truthfully, I could. I have had many thoughts that I believe were true, yet the Spirit told me it was not true and told me why it was not true. Consequently, many of my former thoughts I have learned (both from what others told me and things I concluded from my experience) were false. I think one way, the Spirit thinks another way. He tells me "My ways are not your ways, and my thoughts are not your thoughts." I have learned this to be true because virtually everything I knew to be true, was false.

you said: "First you down the bible as containing falsehood,, and when I call you on it,, then you ask a question about yourself to make it appear you have not been useing the bible to prove your points,,"

I did not ask the question to "make it appear I have not been using the Bible," I asked the question because I was unsure if you were referring to my recent posts, or the previous posts some time ago. I just wanted to be sure before I answered your question which post(s) you were referring to.

you said: "when I show you from your own printed words you have,,you make up rediculous excuss that God wants you to use a untrustworthy bible to correct someones thinking. "

It would be difficult for you to understand why I was told to give that one a response from the scriptures because you do not know what is in his/her heart. Therefore you do not know what he/she needed to heart as a result of what was in her heart. The Spirit knew, and the Spirit responded. It would be different for you because the way you feel and what is in your heart, is not the way he/she feels or what is/was in his/her heart. That is why the post to him/her was different from the post to you. You and him/her are/were not the same and what he/she needed was/is not what you need.

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Is God able to help everybody all the time?

by Gopher in

let's assume that there is a creator of life who gots things started eons ago.

that's my persuasion, although i am not actively religious.. one major problem with belief in a creator is that he/she/it is supposed to be benevolent, loving and caring.

many evangelical christians feel he has helped them personally in various ways, emotionally, even financially.

kes152

Greetings,

To Frankie:

Each post that I am told to write, is written according to the way the reader needs to hear. Gretchen, at that time, needed to hear it from the Bible because the Spirit said he/she needed to hear it from the Bible. So, the Bible was used to help her/him see what she/he was not willing to see unless it was shown to him/her in the Bible. Not everything in the Bible is correct. Yet, there are things in the Bible that are correct. It is this reason the Bible cannot be trusted because the book, as a whole, is not correct. Every word was not mistranslated, but many words have been mistranslated. How do you know which ones are accurate and which ones are not? Listen to the Bible's direction and go directly to the One and have your heart open and listen with your ear to the things he says. He will bear witness to what is true and what is not. When his Spirit bears witness with your spirit you will know what is true and what is not. In these last few posts, I did not use the Bible at all to prove or support any points. I only spoke what the Spirit directed me to say. This was because the one(s) to whom I was sent who were 'asking,' did not need to hear it from the Bible. They needed to hear it from the Christ. So it was for this purpose that I was sent to bear witness to what the Spirit has said for them.

To Gumby:

Dear Gumby, when the door is opened to you (a couple of times I have witnessed it having been opened to you) you close the door back and lock yourself up in your disbelief. You feel somewhat satisfied in your flesh believing that you were never answered, when in truth, you have been. Many times you have been answered. You leave yourself contented in believing you were never answered and then when you get 'hungry' enough spiritually, you begin to "ask" for the Christ but when he is again presented to you, you lock yourself up again in your disbelief and deny the One who offers his hand out to you. You want the Christ, but you have become so offended in believing that he never answered you (which is a lie) that anytime he does come to you, you reject him and deny that he is there. Gumby, the Christ will not force himself upon you. If you ask for him, he will come. But he will not force you to believe in him, see him, or know him. You have to want to believe him, want to see him, want to know him. He knows your heart and he knows the real reason why you call for him when you call for him. He knows about all the times you did it just to 'see' if he would come and the times you did it because you truly wanted him to come, and even the times you did it to spite him because you believed he never came. He knows all of that. Again, he will not force himself upon you because he truly respects your free will. If he sees in your heart you truly do not want him, he will not come (out of respect for your free will). If he sees in your heart that you 'truly' want him, he will come. It is up to you. Gumby, if you are unsure of your intentions when you call for him; open up your heart and try to see the things you did not want to see and stop trying to say to yourself that you were honest and you did everything right. If you look and you wish to see what really is there; you will see the 'badness' that you did not see before. Your spirit will bear witness that those things are true, but your flesh may get offended and not want to 'see' anymore and deny the things you have seen. It is up to you which one you want to 'listen' to.

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Is God able to help everybody all the time?

by Gopher in

let's assume that there is a creator of life who gots things started eons ago.

that's my persuasion, although i am not actively religious.. one major problem with belief in a creator is that he/she/it is supposed to be benevolent, loving and caring.

many evangelical christians feel he has helped them personally in various ways, emotionally, even financially.

kes152

Greetings,

To Frankie:

When did I use the Bible and which point did I use the Bible to prove it with?

To Gumby:

It is true that there are many people who suffer in the world. Even when a father rapes his child and the child cries out for help, there are many occasions where God has stepped in and helped. He has even cured them completely of their experience and emotional instability. I have been granted the privilege to see these things because I 'asked' and I 'wanted' to know if God was truly helping them. I didn't want to rely on what my eyes of flesh see, because I know what my flesh "sees" is not always what is. If you want to see, Gumby, you can see if you are asking and seeking. But if you are not asking and you wish not to seek, how then could you find? How can you know without asking and wanting to know. If you want to believe what you already believe, you will believe it. But if you want to know what is true, and you keep asking and seeking until you find what is true, what bears witness with your spirit, you will find it. The knowledge is out there Gumby, and there is One whom you can go to and receive it. But if you wish not to go to him but try to see some other way, you will not find it. I do not say this to speak down to you, I say this because it is the truth. If you don't want to see Gumby, you don't have to see. This does not make you an evil person, all it means is that you do not want to see. But if you should decide to see, or decide not to see, in either case I still have affection for you.

To Myauntfanny:

The Father wants us to have compassion for others. He loves us and has compassion for us and it pleases him when we love one another and have compassion for one another. Many people decide in themselves that they need to suffer in order to have compassion for others who suffer and so they ask to suffer. Others can feel compassion for others who suffer without suffering themselves. If someone 'wants' to love and 'wants' to have compassion, God will give such love and such compassion to him. If one doesn't want to love or doesn't want compassion unless he suffers himself, such will be given to him if he wants it that way; but he does not have to have it that way. It is really up to us and our motives in our heart.

Peace to you all,

Aaron

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Is God able to help everybody all the time?

by Gopher in

let's assume that there is a creator of life who gots things started eons ago.

that's my persuasion, although i am not actively religious.. one major problem with belief in a creator is that he/she/it is supposed to be benevolent, loving and caring.

many evangelical christians feel he has helped them personally in various ways, emotionally, even financially.

kes152

Greetings,

To Gumby:

It is fine with me Gumby. I do not take offense to your words because the words that were given to you were not mine. They were his words. It is up to you if you wish to believe what is true, or believe what you want to believe. If you 'see' people and you believe they are crying out for help and you believe that God does not help them according to what your eyes show you and you wish to rely on what your own eyes reveal to you, then you will fall victim to what your eyes tell you, whether it is true or false (it is true that what you 'see' is not always what is). If you have already decided in your heart to only believe what you see, then you will not hear anything that is true, only what agrees with what you see. For as long as you continue to wish this, this will always be the case with you. If you wish to change and want to change... you will change. If you wish to remain as you are, you will remain as you are.

To Terry:

As the Professor you spoke with began to bring out, many people are misled by the things they do not know or understand. Many who rely upon what is written in the Bible without knowing about the Bible do fall victim to many of its contradictions, mistranslation, mistransliterations, and are left with only what other people have told them or what their own thoughts believe. The scribes who copied the scriptures were condemned by the Christ for their corruption back then. How much more so would the corruption be now?

If we stopped assuming, stopped relying upon what others told us, and learned to rely upon the One from whom all truth comes from, we would not be victim to these things. We would have been exposed by the Christ for our assumptions, for our relying upon what other people told us, for not knowing the things we THOUGHT we knew. If after being exposed of these things we actually came to terms with them and accpeted them, we would then know (if we wanted to) what is true as opposed to what others were misled to believe. We know what we "want" to know, and we believe what we "want" to believe. Many Professors, Teachers, Psychologists and others in the world know things that are true because they keep "asking." Those who 'ask' for what is true, receive what is true because the Christ gives to anyone asking, ANYONE seeking, anyone knocking. Those who listened to what he said and use what he said, saw how it brings true benefit and begin teaching it to others. People ask until they receive and many times after they receive, they stop asking. This happens many times with Professors, Teachers, Psychologists, and others in the world. After they have received what is true, they decide to incorporate their own insight into it and unkowingly 'color' it with falsehood. That is why many of what they say is true and in same same breath some of it is false.

Peace to you all,

Aaron

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Is God able to help everybody all the time?

by Gopher in

let's assume that there is a creator of life who gots things started eons ago.

that's my persuasion, although i am not actively religious.. one major problem with belief in a creator is that he/she/it is supposed to be benevolent, loving and caring.

many evangelical christians feel he has helped them personally in various ways, emotionally, even financially.

kes152

Greetings Frank,

You asked if I could possibly be one of the misled ones who think they have the Christ but truly do not. Yes, I could if I were to hide from my sins and attempt to continue hiding from my sins. Each day the Spirit has been coming to me and revealing my sins to me from deep within my heart and each time I am always given the opportunity to believe my sins and admit my errors, or act as though I do not hear them, or ignore them, and believe I am righteous. If I were to ignore the sins and errors that have been revelaed to me and believe that I do not have those problems, then I could very well be one of those who think they have the Christ, but truly do not. That is why a GREAT deal of my spirituality depends heavily upon my being honest and not hiding from my sins.. even secretly. He knows when I am trying to play false and when I do he tells me. He then leaves it up to me to believe him and stop playing false and "come clean" or to deny that I am playing false and go on acting in deciet deceiving myself and being deceived.

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Is God able to help everybody all the time?

by Gopher in

let's assume that there is a creator of life who gots things started eons ago.

that's my persuasion, although i am not actively religious.. one major problem with belief in a creator is that he/she/it is supposed to be benevolent, loving and caring.

many evangelical christians feel he has helped them personally in various ways, emotionally, even financially.

kes152

Greetings.

To Ozziepost:

The Spirit comes to anyone asking for him and speaks to anyone who wants to hear the truth. Many have been taught they have the Christ in their hearts and many believe they have the Christ in their hearts, however, their words and actions tend to show that rather then having the Christ in their hearts, they are by their works disowning even the Owner that bought them and spreading their corruption into the earth. I hear because I 'asked' to hear. I wanted the truth and I asked for him to come and speak to me the truth. The door was opened, I walked through. The door has been opened to many and some walk through, some do not. There are people who truly have the Christ in their hearts, and there are many others who think they do, but truly do not. I am unable to say who does and who does not unless the Holy Spirit specifically tells me who does and who does not and I am given the direction to say such. In the meantime, the Christ knows those who belong to him and his sheep will hear his voice. It is not up to me at all. All I am is one who has been sent by that One to do the things I am directed to do and say.

To JT:

Many people suffer because of what they have brought upon themselves, many people suffer because of what OTHERS have brought upon them. The Christ knows all of them and he knows the ones who are asking. Everyone who suffers and is asking for the help of the Christ receives it. Everyone who after receiving the help and obeys him, makes whatever change(s) necessary to receive the salvation from such persecution does get saved from it. The Christ himself delivers them. What ones must do is 'want' to be delivered, and be willing to be delivered. The Christ does not force deliverance upon anyone, it is a free gift to anyone who wants it. God IS able to help everyone all the time. The truth is, not everyone wants his help, and there are many who say they want his help, but when such help is offered, they reject him. There are also many others who ask for his help and when such help is offered, they take it and are delivered.

Peace to you all,

Aaron

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Is God able to help everybody all the time?

by Gopher in

let's assume that there is a creator of life who gots things started eons ago.

that's my persuasion, although i am not actively religious.. one major problem with belief in a creator is that he/she/it is supposed to be benevolent, loving and caring.

many evangelical christians feel he has helped them personally in various ways, emotionally, even financially.

kes152

Greetings to you all.

To Gumby:

The Spirit says to you, "Not all the people in the earth who are suffering do not want my help. There are many who do want my help and those who want my help, get my help. There are also many people in the earth who say they want my help but truly in their hearts.. do not want my help. Everyone asking receives and to everyone knocking the door is opened to them. When one knocks and the door is opened.. it is up to them if they wish to walk through it. I force no one to come to me for help. If one's wish for my help, I offer it to them. It is up to them if they want to take my help.. and many of them do. However, many of them do not. There are also many people who call out with their mouths that they "want help from God" however, when such help is presented to them, or they are told what they must do to get out of such situation, many people go back to their old ways and stop asking for help and do not want the help any longer. You, Gumby, see what your eyes show you and hear what your ears tell you, but I see what is in their HEART and what is in their deepest of emotions. You do not know what is 'really' going on in their hearts, and it is because of this ignorance that you do not 'see' why some receive and others do not. However, if you "wish" to see, your eyes MAY be opened.. if you are truly 'asking.' "

To New Light:

The Spirit did not say that all the suffering that people are subject to are because of their own actions. He was not saying it was their fault. What he WAS saying is that those who have been subjected to such suffering, such persecution, and have 'asked' for a "way out" have all been provided a way out. All who have 'asked' have been provided a 'way' out, but not all have taken that way out. Many have chosen to neglect the way out and remain in their suffering. When anyone in their heart is calling out for him or even if their heart is simply calling out for salvation, he hears it. If their intent is to be released from their suffering and they are so much as 'wanting' a way out, the Christ answers them. However, many after having the "door opened to them" do not want to walk through it for a number of possible reasons and continue to remain in bondage calling out for salvation. Not all do this, but many do this.

To LittleToe:

The reason our Father answers some prayers and others he does not, as the Spirit has told me is because, "God reads the HEART and searches the DEEPEST of intentions." He sees what we do not see and he knows who is really 'asking' and who is really not asking, or perhaps asking for a wrong purpose. He says, "Everything I do is for the benefit of the sheep." So what prayers he does answer and what prayers he does not hear, or answers at the right time.. all he does for the benefit of the sheep. He knows what is best for them and it is because of his immense love and deep concern FOR them that he does and says the things he does. He helps even where we do not know we need such help.

To Ozzie:

We all have our wish list in our hearts.. all of us. Go sees our "wish list" even if we do not present it to him.. he sees it. He knows the things we are needing and the things we are asking, even BEFORE we ask him. The Spirit says to give you Matthew 6:8. The Spirit did not tell me nor am I bearing witness that we should tell God our wishes and expect him to answer. What the Spirit IS saying and to this my spirit bears witness is that God sees what we are wishing for and ANYONE who is wishing for HIM and is calling for him or is so much as 'wanting' him whether it be 'truth' or deliverance, or anything else.. he DOES come and he DOES open the door to us so that we "see." At this point, it is up to us if we want to walk through the door. Not all walk through the door. Many call for him and after receiving him, they don't want the help anymore for a number of possible reasons. All of these things occur in their hearts and it is because of our motives in asking, that many of us "walk through the door" and others do not.

Peace to you all,

Aaron

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Is God able to help everybody all the time?

by Gopher in

let's assume that there is a creator of life who gots things started eons ago.

that's my persuasion, although i am not actively religious.. one major problem with belief in a creator is that he/she/it is supposed to be benevolent, loving and caring.

many evangelical christians feel he has helped them personally in various ways, emotionally, even financially.

kes152

Greetings Gopher,

Yes, there is an answer to your post as I have received from the Holy Spirit. The Spirit says,

"Yes, the Father does help many people, even the ones who really NEED his help. However, there are many, many people who have been abused, war-torn, starving, diseased and more who suffer.. yet they do not WANT my help. They do not want to make the changes that are necessary for THEIR benefit in order that they may no longer suffer anymore. Anyone who 'wants' the truth can have it. Anyone who wants to be released can have it. If they "really" want it, they will do what is necessary to attain such things and the Father will by NO MEANS withold good things from them. Sadly, many flesh does not like to make changes, does not want to stop doing what makes them suffer, and continues to suffer because they "want" to suffer because they DO NOT want my help, or they do not want to make the changes for their benefit that would PREVENT or even ELIMINATE their current state of suffering. A'men I say to you, EVERYONE asking receives.. and EVERYONE searching finds.. and to EVERYONE knocking.. it is opened to them. Many in the earth who do not receive, do not receive because they are not asking. Many do not find because they are not searching, and to many the door is NOT opened because they are NOT knocking. He who knocks, it is opened, he who searches.. finds. And to everyone asking.. they receive."

As I have heard from the Christ.. the Holy One of Israel. Peace to you all.

Aaron