I like to to make pottery with ghosts and sing "unchained melody" while feeling up demi moore!
pbrow
i was always told it was satan and his demons making people think they exist.
not sure.
i always thought the guy that excavated king tutenkahmun had a curse on him though.. .
I like to to make pottery with ghosts and sing "unchained melody" while feeling up demi moore!
pbrow
this is the title of the 15th chapter in the "what does the bible really teach book".
so i have to study this book and am doing it with an elder.
after taking long breaks inbetween the study, this is the chapter that is coming up.
Proclaimer....
The next time it comes up in your study you could ask him to show you from the bible and the bible only how you get to 1914. (It should be simple right?)
pbrow
excellent material can be found within the reasoning book, page 328, para.2, 3. occasionally, i see posters make presumptuous comments like, "all you need is the bible", or, "i'm born-again, so there's no need for spiritual assistance from another christian", or,"i'm saved", or my favorite, "jesus talks to me directly.
" on one hand, i can't be overly critical of such ones because they do attempt to read and understand the bible on their own.
(acts 17:11) not to mention they're generally peaceable folks, just self-misguided when erroneously believing that they can go it alone.
SFPW.... please do not go away. Keep posting. You are the exact reason why the the governing body does not want jdubs posting on the internet. I cant remember the names of the apologist that were on this site several years ago but the endless replies to posts that were made by them are some of the best "wake up" calls i received while lurking here.
You will be forgotten as well but rest assured you are helping to shatter the jw mindset that keeps so many people trapped in this man made organization. Good luck in your journey.
pbrow
page 12 of the january 1,1989 wt original magazine paragraph 8 ends with the statement that the apostle paul's missionary activity laid a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century.".
(a subtle prophecy that 'the end' will come by the year 2000 a.d.).
this sentence is changed in the bound volume reprint to read "a work that would be completed in our day.
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i had a music album by a gay guy before i was a jw and had no problem listening to it.
it's good music.
some of the lyrics are what you might call 'gay', that is there's some talk about boyfriends, gay bars, and queens and the intolerance the artist encountered as a gay man.
Orwell.... I think your heart is def in the right place. The point of them being a certain percentage of the population is telling. It even happens in the animal world. If you beleive in god than you have to come to terms with the fact that although homosexuality is a minor part of nature it is indeed a part of nature.
My experience has been once you get to know some gay individuals and couples you start to realize just how "normal" they are.
pbrow
an average of five kingdom halls being constructed daily, almost 8 million brothers and sisters, dissemination of bible literature in 595 languages, 111,795 congregations worldwide, distribution of 179 million bibles available in 116 languages, 239 countries where jehovah's witnesses have a presence, etc.. need i go on?.
on the other hand........... crisis of conscience, freeminds, the awaa, jw.net, ummmmmm........hmmm........idk six screens or something?
not exactly working out for you guys.
suraj,
I agree completely. These threads are exactly why the GB does not want jdubs interacting with people on the internet. These jdub apologists come on, leave a few comments, and the threads blow up with thoughful and logical reasoning as to why the jdub teachings are so misguided. When you are hit in the face over and over and over and over again with logical responses and all you can come up with is "no, the governing body is not in charge of anything" it helps lurkers to see that something is terribly wrong with their religion.
SFTW.... I say keep it up. Fight the good fight. I hope you come to your senses and realize what true freedom is, but if you dont, your posts are helping many people realize what a farce these fundamentalist religions are.
Carry on.......
pbrow
i ran into 3 young sisters today.
and just talked to them about the fds 1914 and they didn't know any thing about 1799, 1874 etc.
i kept it lite and told these young lady's to look it up as i'm 30 years older than them.
Hey junkyard, I think its hillarious that us ex jdubs say.... "we kept it lite.. talking about 1914, 1799 and 1874"
What an odd perspective we have now that we are out!!!!
Nice work though by the way.
pbrow
as a young teenager, i would look at "apostate" books at the city library.
i was always intrigued as to what was sooo bad and other than a few writings of some that seemed like they hated the witnesses, i would clandestinely look at literature, especially in "christian" bookstores.. it took years for me to finally disconnect.
i will say that ray franz' books enlightened me the most!.
I had been df'd for smoking a cigar w/ my grandpa. After I crawled back to the group that was "closest to the truth", I started to wake up. I remember I googled jw and found this website. I was very nervous even though I was at work. I kept reading about some guy Franz and seeing "CoC" and had no idea what that meant. As I finally figured it out and then ordered it online and got it delivered to my house, little did I realize what a difference that book would make in my life. I think I read CoC in three days and In Search of Christian Freedom in about 7 or 8 days. No animosity, no hatred, Mr Franz just laid out his honest, humble take on what his experience was. Mr Franz kicked me in the teeth with his courage and kindness. I specifically remember the night of my paradigm shift. It was an awesome experience for me.
I know that Mr Franz would play it down but I cannot put into words what I feel that I owe him. Not just for me but for the freedom of my two daughters.
Thank you Ray.
My family will never forget you.
pbrow
este.... i just read one of your other posts....... you ARE serious.
There has never been a greater more promising time in the history of mankind than our time now. You want to spend this time hoping for the destruction of helpless newborns, 2 year olds, 3rd graders, middle schoolers and bright young high school graduates? You must believe in the god of the bible who slaughtered thousands of innocent children and gave up innocent young girls to be raped. Im of the opinion "douche" isnt a strong enough word for you.
pbrow
Este.... are you just effing with us? You cannot possibly think the world is going to end!!??!!... well besides when the sun actually dies sometime within the next 5 million years. Do you really think the world is going to end? God I hope you dont have kids.
pbrow