AMEN!
Put your voice out there and let the chips fall where they may! That is the way to live!
pbrow
we really went at it this weekend.
pretty ugly!
well at least now the air is cleared.
AMEN!
Put your voice out there and let the chips fall where they may! That is the way to live!
pbrow
i came across this title phrase while reading a daily devotional one morning and it reminded me of this discussion board.
there really is a fellowship of sufferings here.
never since adolph hitler has an organization done so much to destroy families as the watchtower has done.
The watchtower cons its followers into thinking they cant leave. Lucky for us we have the ability to wake up and GTFO.
One in the labor camps could not wake up and say "hmm on second thought there is something strange about this mass shower room... I think Ill leave now."
Both orgs have their victims but they are not remotely in the same class.
Hitler is responsible for gassing millions of people. He chose to do that.
Your mother/father/family friends are choosing to shun you. They are choosing to do that. They are responsible.
pbrow
i came across this title phrase while reading a daily devotional one morning and it reminded me of this discussion board.
there really is a fellowship of sufferings here.
never since adolph hitler has an organization done so much to destroy families as the watchtower has done.
While we as witnesses were most certainly damaged to say that the dubs are the worst since hitler is a little fanciful. N Korea and the baath party are two organizations that have fucked up some lives way worse then people willingly staying in a group because they don't want their kids to miss their grandparents.
JW = bad
Hitler / N Korea / Hussein = WAY THE FUCK WORSE
pbrow
this is what happened.
i had a sore tendon in my wrist.
i could work with it, but nevertheless the pain was there.
+1 for the demons
i've read many statements on this forum from people who have expressed the sentiment that you don't shove ttatt down the throat of an older person.
it would be too traumatic and its best to let some people, in some situations, simply pass on in the delusion.. its humane.
merciful.. in the initial roar of my awakening, i was unable to cuddle up to that sentiment; preferring, instead, to shove the blood curdling shock of truth down the throat of anyone i could get my grip on... age be dammed.
I desire mercy, not sacrifice.
Testament to good values. Good universal values can be cherry picked out of the bible.
Hearing my mother talk about meeting her mother in the paradise tempered my strong desire to help her out of the church at all costs.
I will second that your response was very touching...
pbrow
i was just reflecting about this site and it`s influence on me and what i have got out of it and it came to me that whatever subject i bring up , or others bring up , the obvious thing is we engage in discussion .that`s what it`s all about .. however , the feedback we get or the input we give , far outweighs anything we ever achieved going from d2d for the wtb&ts./ wt real estate agency /publishing house .. how many times did you have a meaningful discussion with a person at a door ?, as a jw ?
not many i would think.. the majority of times , they were not home or not opening the door to you , so even if you did meet people they were too busy to talk to you or they just were not interested.. whereas , here on this board you engage with many people from all over the world , and we can discuss a subject as long as we want.until it runs it`s course.. i think anybody who posts here has had far more satisfaction in their interaction with other people on this board than they ever experienced in the d2d work as a jw.. and i hope that people who just lurk here can see the benefits of open discussion in a forum like this without judgement and recriminations that occur in the jw religion for speaking your mind.. smiddy.
HERE HERE!
well, thats it folks.. my identity on here has been rumbled and reported to the elders.
someone, somehow, has figured out that im a member of this site and - rather than speak to me - has promptly reported me to the elders.
i just feel sad for my daughter.
Pale,
Play no other card then this.... Who the fuck is any blowjob elder to ask you anything? The gig is up, no fade for you. Kangaroo courts could give two shits about reasonable doubt or about your denial. The next move is yours and yours alone.
You have a daughter? Your duty is to help her think for herself and show her that hiding is for cowards! The funny thing about kids is that they grow up and will start to piece together all the crazy shit that happens in divided Jehovah's Witness households. Make sure she knows what side you were on!
Let your kid go to the meeting, no different than any other fairy tale church. When you give your child the the real life, ie opportunities and experiences that she deserves, she will leave this cult in the dust. Few things are more important than your daughter rejecting this cult on her own!
pbrow
edit... just read your update. Good for you! Glad to hear it! Being true to yourself is of the utmost importance. When your idiot "relatives" and "friends" are on their death bed in 40 years still waiting for armagedon your daughter now has an excellent chance of being well into her "real life"
From first hand experience, my two teenage kids are well on their way out... this will be bumpy but it is worth it!!
pbrow
lately i've been feeling just so fed up with this stupid religion i really can't take it anymore!
i'm starting to think that maybe i should just tell my parents how i really feel.
if they treat me too badly or kick me out i could probably stay with my non jw aunt.. ive just reached my breaking point, i don't really care what people think of me anymore.
Blackwolf... I was a born in who did everything right to appease all those around me, didnt rock the boat because of what I would lose. I didnt see what I would gain by leaving. I remember the teens who at 14,15, 16 who said "fuck it" and got on with their lives. I am 38 now and have run into a few of them over the years and they barely remember me but I never forgot them. They chose their path and never looked back.
As odd as it may seem, even though I dont know your parents, I know your parents. If your aunt is on board then go for it. Do not waste another minute of your life allowing yourself to be minimized by parents who have their head so far up their ass they cannot see the forest for the trees. You can feel bad for them, they are in a cult, they dont know any better... blah blah blah... When your parents say you are being influenced by satan they are literally judging your thoughts, feelings and actions as evil. If that is not abuse I do not know what is.
You seem to know it. Now act on it. I can only look back with regret at my almost willful ignorance in choosing not to make a stand.
Only you can determine what is best for you. Good luck. Remember, tomorrow is another day even if its tough to see past the decisons we make today.
pbrow
a wonderful announcement to my friends in the forum.
i am no longer one of jehovah's witnesses.
in the month of may 2016 i wrote my resignation letter and gave it to the elders in my congregation.
Well played son. Keep trusting in yourself. You are making good decisions already!
pbrow
the religoios lessons themselfs are not missed, they were actually quite dull, and i realize i learnt nothing of value from them.
instead a quite evening at home playing with my boy is more endearing.. yes my life has moved on, i occassionaly see members of my former congregation in shopping centers, or they are putting the kids in to the back of the car and inside i believe most of them have bottled it, they prefer the comfort to the " truth" who am i to expose the can of worms.. many of course can blame parents or grandparents for having grown up as outcasts in school and i hope if they do leave like me they hold no resentment.
indoctrination is a terrible thing, and even false prophecy, royal commissions, and proof that many of the elders in the congregation are complete and utter shits won't change them.
Thanks fellas for posting it. As soon as I saw the picture it brought me immediately back to my "this is all bullshit" moment when I realized I would never bring my kids up in this cult.
Very powerful indeed.
pbrow