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  What is freedom to you?

  by What is Truth? in

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  we always say free choice, the freedom to choose well the ability to choose is freedom and we claim freedom ourselves to the attention that we become aware of our decisions.

  well today this year i choose to never step foot in a kh again unless someone died or i have an axe and some gasoline!

  who's got a lighter for me?.

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  Bravo!

  I have an axe if you bring the lighter!

  pbrow
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  Fade Advice Please

  by Zeds Dead in

  1. jw
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  i got reinstated in the last month and had my record cards sent to a new congregation.

  i went to a few meetings until i heard the cards had been sent and now i am looking to do a complete fade, no longer go at all.

  the new congregation does not know me well and further away from where i live so i am hoping they will give up trying to make contact quickly.. any advice on do's and dont's and what to expect?.

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  Hide. Keep your window curtains drawn. If they come up to your house, go inside. Give them a last minute excuse that you cant make it. Dont ever put up christmas lights or halloween decorations. Cross to the other side of the street when you see them coming. Dont make eye contact at the grocery store.

  Basically live in fear and waste time in the only life that you are absolutely sure you have.

  That is not living. That is cowering. Get the fuck on with your life!!

  I say that as someone who tried to fade for a few months and finally realized what I was doing to myself. I wish someone had been this blunt with me.

  GTFO

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  help me think like an elder

  by Homer notsimpson in

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  ok guys, i have been tasked to ask for your opinions regarding this case.. and be honest.

  my brother sexted a girl a little over a year ago, they never dated, and she got mad at him.... she got engaged and the engagement ended in august.. she attempted suicide, then talked to the elders an told him she was gonna tell on him too, now that was in august, the sister told my brother that since she didn't know his hall they couldn't do anything.. we found that doesn't seem right, so hes been freaking out, but ita now two days away from 2017 and the elders haven't speaked to him yet.. why could that be?

  could they give him all this time to confess?

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  STOP SEXTING WITH JW GIRLS!!!

  There are literally thousands of women who have no problem with sexting and will not be bothered by exchanging sexting messages with him.

  Dont ever talk to or txt this girl again.

  Tell the elders to blow themselves, this can be done cordially or literally "go blow yourselves"

  Leave the cult.

  Go to college.

  Pursue his passions.

  Never look back

  It is not any more difficult than this. Do not let anyone tell you it is.

  pbrow
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  Williams sister got engaged to some guy from Reddit

  by wozza in

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  so is he a witness or if not what are gb going to do about it since she identifies with the watchtower society?.

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  What the fuck is the gb going to do about it? What is anyone else going to do about it? She is a grown ass woman who does what she wants to do, including associate herself with this church. If we had more people like her still associating instead of fading away the jw's would be a much more normal church.

  Get the fuck out, speak your voice. Swing by swing we can knock the teeth out of this cult. The more people that just up and leave, drink the wine and give a speech, refuse the judicial committess, refuse to be shunned and just outright and do what the fuck they want to... the more "normal" this church will become.

  Stop wondering why Serena can do this or prince can do that... who gives a shit! Being a witness taught to you "do nothing" and "wait on jehovah" Take your life back and start doing what you want to do! Live the only life we can absolutely be sure that we have!

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  Elders getting burnt up.

  by biblexaminer in

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  the elders in this area are getting burned out.

  i have overheard comments that demonstrate this, but in my dealings with them, i clearly see it.

  they can't keep it straight.

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  Welcome to the age of paid clergy...

  coming soon to a kingdom hall near you!!

  I might rejoin if that happens!

  Elder Pbrow has a nice ring to it

  pbrow
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  Hi forum

  by A Believer in

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  i proably shouldnt be on here but i feel like saying this.

  i have been for the last couple weeks been studying religion.

  i've learned the only ones who today do what the bible says to is jw.

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  I would not be surprised if believer has left this thread but hopefully not the site.

  Troll or not, intentional or not... When I was starting to question things 7 years ago, these are exactly the types of threads i pored over. I spent months looking for exactly these types of threads.

  It is completely obvious the exhausting amount of work that has been put into the thoughtful posts by our members here. Posts that are so easily dismissed or just outright ingnored. When questions are posed and just downright ignored, it made me realize that they just have no legs to stand on.

  post away believer... You are helping more than you could ever know

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  Fading or Disassociating

  by Saethydd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello, i'm new here.. i'm a college student who has been raised in the "truth" for my entire life.

  i was baptized at 10 years old, and looking back now i know i didn't fully grasp everything involved, for one thing i don't even recall ever going to jehovah in a special prayer to dedicate myself to him, but anyway that's the past and my focus is really on the present.

  i'm currently pursuing an associates degree, but i find myself desiring to pursue a bachelors in my chosen field so that i may have a somewhat more secure future.

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  getting out while still young... priceless!

  Only you can determine what your next step is. Remember though that people will treat you poorly only if you allow them to. If you have people in your life that treat you poorly, cut them out of your life like the cancer they are.

  Whether you decide to make a clean break or fade you are in an envious position. I am sure you are nervous because of the unknown of depending completely on yourself. You can and will get to the other side of this decision. Personal freedom is worth every moment of anxiety and every drop of sweat that you will no doubt have to go through. Be true to yourself and keep searching!

  good luck,

  pbrow
  
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  Elder wants to stop by with the CO for a visit .

  by NikL in

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  so i got a text from an elder who i consider one of the good guys and a friend in his own way.. he asked if he could bring the co by for a visit.

  he said it would be "just a pleasant call and visit and will hopefully encourage my wife".

  he says that "he knows she is dealing with a ton of pressure".. in all my years around the organization, i never had a visit from the circuit overseer.

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  " I am kind of nervous and I don't really know why. I haven't done anything LOL"

  My completely uneducated guess is that your nervousness stems from your just "fading"... which from the co's and your elder friend's view is that you are still playing by their rules and you are still a card carrying member of your church.

  In my unlettered view, you have done what we long time and born-in witnesses are exceptional at.... Nothing... waiting and seeing.... you are a fader. As long as you keep yourself in the faded class, you are still part of their system. GTFO and stir the pot a bit.

  Buck your system.
  

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  "We Had No Idea How Manipulative He Can Be!"

  by pale.emperor in

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  very stressfull and upsetting evening was had last night.

  i dropped my 2yo daughter off to my ex-wifes home.

  all seemed good until i got home.

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  pale...

  Even though your girl is only 2 years old she will not be that way forever. If anything in this world is true, having an ex who is an uber-jdub is extremely frustrating. I have had good and bad results with a lawyer and without. Only you can determine how you want to proceed. Court is extremely expensive with a lawyer and at least moderately expensive w/out one.

  The courts I have been in (wisconsin) do not give two shits about the religion, hers or yours. Do not make it about religion in the courts, simply make it about behaviors. For your girl, make sure you get AT LEAST 50/50 custody. When they are young that is what is most important. NOTHING IS MORE IMPORTANT then placement. Give her a normal life, friends, activities, holidays, sports and as she gets older the insane bubble world of the jdubs will become painfully obvious to her.

  I have two young teens now. I got out when they were 5 and 3. You are going to be extremely frustrated for literally the next 16 years. Accept it and always remember that showing your daughter that a normal life is ok. It is more important than anything, your frustration especially. It is a long road but it is completely worth it. The lives my girls lead is awesome.... great friends, great grades, involved in school and sports, love the holidays and most importantly they ask questions and do not accept asinine reasoning.

  Good luck, the fight is worth it.

  pbrow
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  You know it's time to give up the JW religion when your route call tells you to

  by jambon1 in

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  lasting memory of the latter period of time in the organisation:.

  i had a route call with the magazines whom i'd called on for a number of years.

  eventually when i become a parent i became consumed with negativity, doubt (blood issue) & depression.

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  I know I am late to this party but.... here is an extremely sympathetic, emotional FUCK YEAH!!!!

  I cant describe what these types of posts do for my soul other then a swelling of happiefiedness!!! Welcome to the REAL world! You have taken a monumental step forward for your child/ren!

  Truly awesome!

  Congrats!

  pbrow