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  Repetition Of Things/Repetition for Emphasis!

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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  all this gt,end of times, corona, etc has got me thinking that something i read some time back may perhaps seem true abotu repetition.. james clear wrote an article about:why facts dont chnage our minds.

  "silence is death for any idea.

  an idea that is never spoken or written down dies with the person who conceived it.

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  hey rajenighanda,

  Jdumbs? Ill give you that people who are not born in have somehow been duped by the slick presentation of the witnesses. The born-ins, however, almost to a person, simply are not exposed to any different ideas... by design.

  I am a pretty conservative guy but I still hate seeing posts with "Demoncrat" or "Demorat" that vilify a person simply because he belongs to a specific social group.

  You are correct... jw's are fed the same lies, idiosyncracies and bs repeatedly. That is what keeps the born-ins... in. Some of the most brain washed born ins I grew up with were incredibly smart, articulate and kind people.

  I guess it just strikes a nerve when the two groups are mixed together. Call the converts anything you want... they volunteered for wisdom of tight pants Tony and rubber faced Lett. Born-ins got fucked (some literally) right from the start

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  Ray Franz

  by pbrow in

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  i know ray and his wife have passed but i wanted to take a few minutes and put my thanks in writing.

  it is pretty incredible to me that someone who i never met, played such a major role in my outlook on life and more importantly in my (at the time) young daughters lives.

  from the very first pages of "crisis of conscience" it seemed as though ray was writing to me.

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  pbrow

  I know Ray and his wife have passed but i wanted to take a few minutes and put my thanks in writing. It is pretty incredible to me that someone who i never met, played such a major role in my outlook on life and more importantly in my (at the time) young daughters lives.

  From the very first pages of "Crisis of Conscience" it seemed as though Ray was writing to me. From previous experiences I have read, I know that I am not the only one who was literally shaking, thinking the elders were going to bust down my door while reading Ray's book. Almost right away this line jumped out at me... "If some of what is presented is painful to read, it was painful to write" I did not rise to hold every position in the JW religion, but I was a true believer. I wanted to do the right thing and be a good dub for my mother. But when I hit 30 and had two young girls, I needed to make sure I was telling them the right things for the right reasons and began reading everything.

  "Crisis" opened my eyes like so many others. It was the final brick out of the wall for me. My daughters are now ten years older, have a completely different outlook on life than I did when I was finishing high school. My goal after finishing Ray's books was making sure that my girls would not need to read "Crisis" That they would not need to log into jw.net or jwfacts and figure out a "post-jw" world. I can honestly say that I have succeeded and while they still have family and friends in the church they are most definitely not jehovahs witnesses. They see it for what it is and for what its not.

  Thanks Ray,

  Peter Brower
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  Unsolicited advice for PIMO JWs who live in anguish and fear

  by Roger Kirkpatrick in

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  before one who belongs to another religion can become a jw, one must officially resign from one’s former church in writing.

  many who left their family religion to become a jw have been disowned by their families.

  of course, jws consider this to be persecution.

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  I would add that pimo is a misnomer. If you are staying in to placate a family member that you think will shun you you are literally still mentally in.

  Your personal freedom is worth losing long term relationships that were built on the foundation of sand. It may be hard to hear but if your friends will ditch you because you do not share every single thought with them, they are not real friends.

  Sea breeze is correct although I remember not being able to fathom the idea..... the longer you wait to get out, the more regret you will have, especially if you have kids. Get out today!

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  Pale.Emperor Summons Some Demons

  by pale.emperor in

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  remember when we were jws and all loved to hear demon stories?

  and then there was always that paranoid person that would shut us up "in case they're listening"?

  and the resident crazy every congregation seems to have that claims to have been possessed at some point?.

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  been a while since i have been on...

  you are fucking weird dude

  Congrats

  Live the life like its the only one you have

  pbrow
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  Can you ever see a time when Govt`s of this world will attempt to abolish all religions ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  we are now in the 21st century of our common era with its insights into the potential of what can be achieved in the near future to benefit mankind for years to come .. the co-operation of governments around the world on so many levels has never been better than it is today and it is at least encouraging to see this .. whether it has to do with the climate , the environment ,food production ,safe water for all ,and the better health for all in the near future, and in the future space exploration.

  however the problem today is still religion !

  in its many extreme forms that divides us in no ways that politics divide us .. politicians learn how to compromise and work with their opponents for the greater good ,whereas religions don`t.. religions divide humans like no politicians ever did well not to the extremes religions will go anyway.. is their going to come a time in history when governments politicians say enough is enough and try attempt to abolish religion ?.

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  Abolishing religion is a totalitarian thing to do. Every freedom loving person should defend the right to believe whatever you want to believe, knowing that ideas have to pass muster in the market place of ideas.

  Abolishing religion means abolishing free thought.

  pbrow
  
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  Did You Care About The Royal Wedding?

  by minimus in

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  i don’t get it.

  who really cares?

  in the usa, it’s such a huge newsworthy event.

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  I was under the impression that the top 1% who ostentatiously pay $150,000 for a wedding dress, build 8 foot cakes and get their money from mommy and daddy are to be despised.

  Boy was I wrong.

  I wish the couple well but the sins of the monarchy are about as long or longer then the sins of religion.

  Can you be a social justice warrior and still be enamored with the Royals?

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  Material such as the film at the end of this years convention confirms that I was right to take my kids out the religion

  by jambon1 in

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  it’s quite affirming to see the horrific material that they’re serving up at the convention this year.

  aside from blatant homophobia, the scenes at the end of the convention that are discussed on another thread stoop to new levels of fear mongering.

  it seems to occur to nobody inside the organisation that this kind of material could trigger fear, deprsssion, anxiety, stress.

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  pbrow

  That video is impressive!

  It will certainly have the intended affect.

  My kids still have to go to the meetings / assemblies with their mother. I enjoy helping them to see around this kind of propaganda.

  Little do the die hards realize that even though michael or jesus is drawing an imaginary bow to fight for them, they are still going to die.

  Epic video, very emotional

  pbrow
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  Translation Please

  by jwundubbed in

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  i hate asking stupid or obvious questions, but i missed something somewhere along the line.

  what is pimi and pomi?

  did i even get the acronyms correct?

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  Physically in mentally out really means physically in mentally in because being mentally out means not giving a shit about what other people think therefore you don't need to play any of their stupid "im in just for family relationship" games.

  I guess that would be ....

  pimormpimibbmomngasawopttydntpaots"iijffr"g

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  Oprah For President!

  by minimus in

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  i hope hollywood helps make her the democratic nominee.

  she sounds like she’s testing out the waters.

  good luck ms. winfrey.

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  The war of ideas is a dangerous, messy, bloody and glorious process!

  Fuck the "ruling class" and all who want it. Go for it Oprah!

  Allah bless America !

  Shabbat shalom

  pbrow
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  Visited My Grandfather

  by Saethydd in

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  my grandfather is a longtime jw with advanced parkinson's.

  on the advice of a good friend mine who is inactive but not "out" i went to visit him monday and we talked for awhile.

  his health isn't well, but he was happy to see me.

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  pbrow

  I am in the plus one category doing what your grandfather asked. Is your family going to rise to the level of physically guarding you from seeing him?

  Fuck them. You have a right to see him just as much as they do. Part of the reason why dubs continue to be able to guilt family members into doing what they want is because we as ex dubs ALLOW THEM TO GUILT US. Stop that shit dead in its tracks.

  Make your family call the police because you are there to play chess with your grandfather. Ball is in their court.

  pbrow

  edit.... amen flipper!