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  Witnesses - Ever Wondered Why You're So Tired After Assemblies/Meetings?

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  recently shared this with me.. they compared the tiredness they felt after attending an assembly and meetings, and noted how much worse it was than actually working and studying hard for hours for their secular employment!

  why were they so exhausted after an assembly/meeting?

  no, it wasn't satan.

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  Dissonant15

  Sorry @Secret Slave, my not-fat fingers bumped the "dislike," I was trying to "like"!
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  Mandatory Reporters of Child Abuse

  by Dissonant15 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  all states in the us mandate health care workers and teachers to report suspected child abuse to law enforcement.

  this year our commonwealth expanded the law to include clergy, and to include a mandatory two hour training on what to look for and how to report, required for all mandatory reporters.. my coworker at the hospital said she and her husband did the training together, because her husband volunteers in the sunday school at the church, they required him to take it too.

  i asked several witnesses when this law came into effect if all the elders and ms are going to be taking the training and everyone looked at me like i was an alien and they had no idea what the heck i was talking about.

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  All states in the US mandate health care workers and teachers to report suspected child abuse to law enforcement. This year our Commonwealth expanded the law to include clergy, and to include a mandatory two hour training on what to look for and how to report, required for all mandatory reporters.

  My coworker at the hospital said she and her husband did the training together, because her husband volunteers in the Sunday school at the church, they required him to take it too.

  I asked several Witnesses when this law came into effect if all the elders and Ms are going to be taking the training and everyone looked at me like I was an alien and they had no idea what the heck I was talking about.

  How are they getting away with this? Does anyone have any insights into this law? Why are the churches complying with having their leadership and lay volunteers do this but JW's are just ignoring it?

  The last time they offered us a "shepherding call" they said they wanted to "talk about any concerns I have." I didn't think anything of it at the time but my husband thinks they were referencing my child abuse conversations. Well I don't care to talk about my concerns with them, I don't want to see their sick filthy lying faces in my house ever.

  I had tried to forget about this, but now that it's on my mind and this time I am fully awake, I believe I will be speaking to my contacts at the Department of Child Welfare.
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  Found Nephew. Sisters incredible reaction.

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i won't make this long.

  i went out again and found him.

  got in through the back door, pushed him to wake up, got him out, fed him, watered him and said he was family and i have a plan.. we talked all day, i let him do what he does, in order not to scare him about the future change that could happen for him.

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  Wow what a sad story. Your sister & BIL sound like horrible people. I'm sure your nephew can see the difference between the love you show for him vs. the JWs treatment. I hope he can get some real help.
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  Who Are Your Past Circuit Overseers? It's a small world..

  by mentallyfree31 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  who were your past circuit overseers?

  i'm sure a lot of us actually know mutual people, as the co's relocate all over the country.. here's a few from the southeast us: (let me know if you recognize any names and post yours too please...).

  ellwood johnson (new york/philadelphia area for several years also).

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  Dissonant15

  From the Northeast:

  Cooks (he was an overweight man)

  _ & Marilyn Hughes (up tight couple, black hair, she a real psycho-bitch)

  The decrepit Conti

  Billy Kim Nichols and his stressed out wife with the Bells Palsy

  Mark & Wendy Fairweather (younger chill couple, everyone's fav)

  DO Mezacek

  LeBels (small blonds, called em "LaDouche," he was always power tripping, she was promoting INSANE health/wellness ideas-forbade microwaves)
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  Introducing...ME

  by Heartsafire in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  long time lurker here.

  i'm a fifth gen born-in baptized jw.

  to say i've been struggling with doubts is an understatement.

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  Welcome HeartsAfire!

  My husband woke up before I did. I resented him initially but got over it relatively quickly. I have been fully awake for only about 6 months. However I was baptized at age 10 and have had intermittent doubts/cognitive dissonance since age 12.

  All of our parents, grandparents, most of our siblings, and our favorite cousins are all-in dub-bots. I understand your wanting to wake your husband up. It is a struggle for me everyday to not get on the phone and give a passionate unwitness to my family members whom I love; I feel such a burning desire to get them out of this prison. But then I remember how they most likely would really respond (shunning me and/or having me formally expulsed) and I have to say nothing.

  You are in good company here.
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  Do you have J-dar?

  by JWdaughter in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  today at work i had an interesting set of co workers.

  one was telling us about her side job selling sex toys(also a l&d nurse).

  the other one, very beautiful, intelligent woman told us of her 2 kids.

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  I actually do not have J-dar at work. A lot of times people surprise me. But that's probably because they've mostly turned out to be fringe dwellers.
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  Cult or Religion

  by Richard C B in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what is a cult and what is a religion?

  its open to debate.

  who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?

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  More and more in the professional and scholarly communities, the term "cult" is shied away from as antiquated and derogatory, like a racial slur (think, the "n" word). The preferred terminology is "High Control Groups." Which, if you read any of the literature by the leading authorities, including Hassan et al., WT/JWs do fit the criteria of a High Control Group.
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  Child Discipline, new article to address Jackson's Royal Commission testimony

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have published a new article at watchtower corporal punishment, as a response to the testimony that geoff jackson gave at the royal commission.

  it includes the relevant part of the transcript, along with a string of watchtower quotes to show that what he presented was not accurate, and that watchtower translates rod as a literal implement to hit children with.

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  This is an excellent, well written article. I always appreciate how you provide ample sources to back up the statements.
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  JW Sister: raped, pregnant what does she do?, abortion or adoption?

  by Olivia Wilde in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this question came out frequently from a situation known to some of us who knew of 2 cases.... if a single or married sister gets rapped by stranger or incest, a pregnancy results, she is not allowed to have an abortion but neither is she allowed to give it up for adoption?...i always question why not up for adoption?...

  no you will be blood guilty because the child won't be raised in the "truth"... hmmmmm does anyone heard of that?

  is it a matter of consciousness?

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  Dissonant15

  Um, I'm pretty sure the sadist borg feels you should keep & raise the child yourself.
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  The worst happens.

  by Vetro in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  say, a woman is going in for colon surgery, it is already known by most of her doctors she has several pychiatric illnesses, along with more than several medications for it, it's also obvious she's a bit slow and not very good at understanding concepts, she's a jw baptized, her husband is baptized, used to be a elder and is no longer practicing, the wife refuses blood, but the husband seems anxious, unnerved about this, he realizes something isn't right about the wt, but can't quite break free, he doesn't want her to die if she need something like blood, but can't convince the wife, the rest of her family will be there, all ex witnesses including her children and mother who was a witness, she signs the form refusing blood.

  during surgery the worst happens, she starts bleeding, it doesn't stop, it gets bad enough even volume expanders won't keep her barely alive.

  will the surgeon just let her die without alert the family what is happening and maybe keep his oath to protect life and perhaps allow a chance at her husband to make a decision to allow a transfusion, or will he just let her die as her deluded wishes dictate and tell the family afterwards?

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  Dissonant15

  Hi Vetro. So sorry you are going through this. At the hospitals I've worked in the USA the blood refusal form is easily overturned in the middle of surgery by the next of kin. If the husband and children want her to have the blood and not die while she is under anesthesia, most hospitals here will override the refusal form and give the transfusion with the Advance Directive Designee's or closest relative's consent.