Boyzone, we also knew here in Romania about that experience with the housewife who cleaned the house before FS. I think I heard it 2 years ago at a convention.
DagothUr
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Made up field service experience at yesterday's Public Talk
by RULES & REGULATIONS inremember the made up stories of witnesses in djibouti,africa where they had to walk 2 days in alligator infested waters with no shoes in the blazing sun to attend the meetings?
they made it to the meetings in these terrible conditions.. talk about made up stories!
here is a field service experience that was told at yesterday's public talk which would fall into the made up stories!.
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A certain "special program", or an "organizational adjustment"?
by possible-san inwell, in a certain bulletin board (2ch) in japan, the boe letter dated january 19 (?
), 2011 has become a topic of conversation.. that is connected with a certain "special program/organizational adjustment.".
do you know something about this?.
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DagothUr
In my ex-congo, we only had 2 elders. One of them was old and always ill. We also had 2 MS. The congo had 40 members. One of the MS had to take the office of deputy of the FS supervisor. This is just a technical mumbo-jumbo, since a MS cannot, doctrinally, replace an elder. But in fact, that MS was in charge with the FS in the congo. He was literally doing an elder's job. After some time, the other MS was demoted and 2 new MS were appointed. An elder was moved from a larger congregation in a nearby city and had to serve in our congo. Just before I left, another brother was appointed as MS. So, by the time I left, the congregation had 46 members, 3 elders (one is old and rather futile, one is from another city) and 4 MS (one that is experienced enough to replace any elder, another one is 20 years old and was baptized an year earlier, another old brother and finally a married brother, 30 years old, with a secular job that barely leaves him any time to attend the meetings, lest to serve as MS). This last MS brother was the deputy overseer of the Ministry School in our congo.
The conclusion is...we were short of elders and that was the problem not only in our congo. The MS appointments were rushed and the nominees were unqualified. The overall age of MS and elders has dropped. Also the time between the baptism and the appointment.
I know for sure this was a problem all around Romania. Not enough males and from them there were not enough qualified individuals. And those qualified were not reaching out.
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"Look it wasn't a global flood.."
by Qcmbr ini've heard the statement from bible apologists so many times that the global flood story of genesis was not a global flood but was probably a local flood.
this seems problematic.. this directly disagrees with the bible.
everywhere the bible internally references a global flood of worldwide scale (i'll throw in matthew 24:39 as a nt example and genesis 6:17 as a ot example.
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DagothUr
There was a global flood after the melting of the ice. But it was not 6000 years ago. More like half a billion years ago, after the Cryogenian era, when Earth was a white, frozen planet.
Smaller ige ages also resulted in smaller meltdowns. Some valleys were flooded, but it was not a global event. The last ice age seems to have ended 15.000 years ago. I have also found marine fossils on top of some 500 meters high hills in the countryside. I still have them in my collection. My pride is a small oyster shell found on a sand-hill, in the village graveyard. If you look a the arc of the Carpathian mountains, you can easily imagine them as a sort of barrage holding a sea inside the arc, over nowadays Transylvania. And the marine facies shows there was a sea in that place, known as the Badenian Sea, somewhere in the miocene era, around 15 millions years ago.
There is enough scientific proof that there were floods and sea-level drops, that land emerged from the sea due to various geologic processes. Natural causes produced natural effects. The Biblic deluge has nothing to do with this and remains just a myth. There is enough evidence to prove this, but most religious fundamentalists are just not interested and probably not intelligent enough to understand geology specific language.
For those who are interested about how marine fossils can be found on top of mountains, there are a lot of studies available on the Internet. But geology is a tough science, hard to understand. It's much easier to believe in a fairy-tale about a supreme being that raised the land from the sea in just one day.
Brotherdan, I completely agree with you. When you throw away a part of the Bible, you might as well throw the whole thing. That is what I did. And I have no remorse on rejecting Jesus either.
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Great refutation of Watchtower's "Origin of Life" and "Was Life Created?" brochures
by Third Eye Open inlink: http://www.mediafire.com/?fzjmfambyro0fof.
the essay linked above was written specifically to address the new creationist brochures that were put out by the watchtower at this year's district convention.
the goals of the essay are the following:.
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What is the source of this photo?
by possible-san inwhat is the source of this photo?.
was this printed in a wts's publication?.
although i know this photo well, i'd like to have persuasiveness when i explain to other people.. .
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Call me paranoid, but its possible that this 30 hour initiative is a weeding out process....a cull if you will...
by miseryloveselders inwe've discussed a few potential reasons why the wt is promoting april 2011 as a month of special activity.
reasons include manipulating statistics, and trying to provide some kind of spark to increasingly apathetic and discouraged congregations.
i'm sure there are others i'm missing too, feel free to include those.
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Yes, Brother Soldier77, I see you haven't turned in your time for the month...
by Soldier77 inso i get the call a couple weeks ago from the secretary concerning my time for the month.
he called on a thursday and said that he is looking forward to seeing me at the meeting tonight and to make sure i turn in my time for the month.
" all the while thinking, yeah right, i'm not even going to be at the meeting let alone turn in my fake time!.
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This Could Turn the World Upside Down
by metatron inhttp://pesn.com/2011/01/19/9501747_cold-fusion-journals_warming_to_rossi_breakthrough/.
if you've been following the "cold fusion" controversy, you may know how difficult it has been to get opponents to get their facts straight , as many of these blogs point out.
the reporting has not been fair, accurate or unbiased.. ok, so maybe "cold fusion" is entirely misleading - but clearly, something profound is happening, that the authorities are upset about.
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DagothUr
There were many revolutionary discoveries during history. At first, all seemed to be hoaxes. And in less than 50 years, we all had one in our home. If this Rossi guy is bullshitting the scientific world, screw him. There will always be the next scientist who gets it right just one year later! And after that there will always be the financial mammoth who will see the river of dollars flowing in perspective and who will finance the project and who will build one device (Made in China) for each one of us. It has always been so and so it shall be.
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Did anyone else find this intriguing/fascinating about this year 2011 and the year of your birth?
by StoneWall inby now you've probably seen the following dates tossed around that will happen in this year:.
but something i wasn't aware of and my brother-in-law showed me about the year 2011:.
take the last 2 digits of the year of your birth and add it to how old you are/will be in this year(2011) and it should always equal 111.. to illustrate, i was born in 1967 and will be 44 this year.
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Why do the JWs have such an aversion to philosophy?
by Darth Eowyn ini mean, they seem to avoid it like the plague.
i know people will say that they only need the bible to guide them in life...etc...but i contend that you cannot simply read the bible by yourself; at least without knowing where the philosophical principles contained within the bible come from.
is this aversion of confusing philosophy with faith way over the head of most jws?
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DagothUr
Philosophy means admitting for sure that you know almost nothing for sure. It operates with abstract notions, many of them unverifiable by senses. It is a science of great uncertainty. And the JWs have their own philosophy, which is their set of doctrines they pretend to be certain and exact, the Truth. For example, they seek supernatural explanations where in fact is only a big unknown. All religions do that. People are strange beings, they fabricate their own truths and pretend them to be "absolute". F...ck, they even die for those fabrications!!!