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irondork
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That Old Favourite: "What Would Jesus Do?"
by BroMac inwe've all heard it, usually in response to something somebody thinks we shouldn't be doing.
"would jesus do it?
probably not - would he condemn me if i were to do it?
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Chain of correspondence with Society regarding pedophilia
by cedars ini have been given permission by barbara anderson to relay some interesting correspondence related to the society's negiligent approach to child abuse.
it should be said at the outset that these letters are anonymous, and the only thing that can be said with certainty is that they are letters addressing the subject of child abuse that were likely sent some time between 1997 and 2004.. with names and dates having been removed, it is impossible to verify the events described in these letters, although if true, they betray a shocking arrogance and apathy on the part of the society.
they also describe pedophiles running virtually unchecked in certain congregations with little or no safeguards for their victims.
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irondork
WTS: We are sending a copy of your letter dated ********* to the elders and are asking them for their comments.
Is this their way of informing the elder body who the trouble makers are and informing the trouble maker that he is now being exposed? For an organization that is steeped in secrecy, how else can a statement like this be interpreted?
If inquiries needed to be made of the elders regarding the contents of these letters, would it not have made sense to discuss only the contents of the letters? What possible benefit to the situation is there by exposing the identity of the person raising these concerns if not to purposely draw attention to and cause problems for the author?
The author of these letters must have felt the same way because in his followup letter he states, "I am reporting these matters in confidence to your Brooklyn offices and therefore, I humbly request that you do not betray my confidence."
Come on! A two year-old could see through this.
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Give Some Logical Points To Prove That JWs Do Not Have The Truth
by minimus inthe one thing that got to me was that this religion is illogical.
their "logic" is ridiculous, especially when it comes to their blood doctrine.
downright weird!.
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irondork
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"9/11 was in fact....an Attack on Jehovah's Organization!!"
by RagingBull ingood day,.
this week is the super special week of activity with one of our favorite jw celebrities...the circuit overseer!!!.
in last night's talk, he gave sooooo much encouragement...just hearing him made me want to fall to my knees and worship him!
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irondork
I read through the OP expecting a punchline at the end.
Oh my goodness! I guess the whole talk was the punchline.
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by The Searcher inthe evening before jesus died, he instigated two distinct and separate covenants; firstly, a new covenant which replaced the mosaic law covenant and was to be celebrated with wine and unleavened bread.
secondly, a covenant for a heavenly priesthood who would administer kingdom benefits to the earth.
a covenant is a legally binding agreement between at least two parties, and nobody can be a beneficiary of a covenant unless they are signatories and party to it.
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irondork
If that question was directed at me, I think the answer is yes. Where we go after the resurrection has nothing to do how we commemorate the Lord's evening meal.
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by The Searcher inthe evening before jesus died, he instigated two distinct and separate covenants; firstly, a new covenant which replaced the mosaic law covenant and was to be celebrated with wine and unleavened bread.
secondly, a covenant for a heavenly priesthood who would administer kingdom benefits to the earth.
a covenant is a legally binding agreement between at least two parties, and nobody can be a beneficiary of a covenant unless they are signatories and party to it.
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irondork
The roomie and I were talking about this subject just the other day.
I think the bible is clear that there will be those "bought from the earth" who will serve in the capacity of kings and priests. Wether the number 144,000 is literal or figurative, I don't know and for myself, that part is not important. That and arrangement has been made for this select group of priests is hardly a new concept, given the Levites role in ancient Israel. Personally, I kind of like the idea that God would set up a government system that includes representatives (of sorts) from earth.
The only thing I am very suspicious of regarding this whole subject is with those who would walk around claiming to be part of this group - especially if they presumed to already have some elevated status right now, on earth.
1 Corinthians 4:8 - YOU men already have YOUR fill, do YOU? YOU are rich already, are YOU? YOU have begun ruling as kings without us, have YOU?
To state membership in this group is an extraordinary claim that demands extraordinary evidence. Since the apostles died off there has been no shortage of men and women from every corner of the world laying claim to being one of these chosen ones. Until I see them glow or walk on water or turn water into Samuel Adams... I ain't buying it.
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by The Searcher inthe evening before jesus died, he instigated two distinct and separate covenants; firstly, a new covenant which replaced the mosaic law covenant and was to be celebrated with wine and unleavened bread.
secondly, a covenant for a heavenly priesthood who would administer kingdom benefits to the earth.
a covenant is a legally binding agreement between at least two parties, and nobody can be a beneficiary of a covenant unless they are signatories and party to it.
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irondork
I don't take issue with anything you have posted, even though my understanding may be a little different. I would just caution you on the use of the words "bible truth" when stating your opinion.
I have what I believe to be bible truths that I hold to and am ready to share them with anyone who wants to listen. However, one of the most important lessons I learned since my exit from the WTS is that NO ONE can rightfully lay claim to possessing absolute bible truth or should present his or her opinion on the scriptures as if with authority on the subject. The last person on earth who was qualified to do that died about 2000 years ago. Everyone since is just doing the best they can with limited resources.
In the meantime, it is my opinion that we should preface our scriptural conclusions with something like, "it is my opinion."
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NEW LIGHT ON WHO YOU REALLY ARE?
by The Searcher injesus said, "truly i say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me".. .
exactly to whom was jesus addressing these words, and who were his "brothers?the subject matter of matthew chapter 25 deals with christ's judgement of all humans, and verses 32 & 33 make it crystal clear that there only two groups standing before him - 'sheep' and 'goats'.
keep in mind that during his ministry, jesus referred to himself as "the fine shepherd" who would give his life on behalf of his sheep.
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irondork
This is a great post, Searcher, and the timing is perfect for individuals to begin digesting this information in advance of the memorial season.
Sound reasoning from the scriptures.
The roommate and I will be taking sacrament at home this year and I had planned on saying a few words about our new understanding of our own personal standing before the Christ. Your post hit several of those points.
Thank you!
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Terrible conduct by congregation Elders in hospital room !
by RULES & REGULATIONS inmy uncle was rushed to the hospital last tuesday with severe stomach pain.
(he was diagnosed with colon cancer one year ago.
the doctors, family,and my uncle decided against colon surgery.
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irondork
I realize the behavior is so shocking in the moment that it is sometimes hard to think clearly how best to respond. But this sort of bulldozing happens because it is allowed to happen by those being bulldozed, often out of more concern for the sick relative.
These take-charge-of-the-situation elders know their tactics work and that's why they use them. They will continue to work because most everyone else has the decency to show repect for the sick relative, and the elders know that too.