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  Aussie Delicacy Vegemite Loses Some of Its Savory Appeal

  by Scott77 in

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  the a-hedupdated may 10, 2012, 12:29 p.m. etaussie delicacy vegemite loses some of its savory appealyeasty spread is acquired taste, but kids today are a hard sell; edgers and streakersby rachel pannettvegemite is australia's best known snack, but maker kraft foods has been struggling to get a new generation of aussies to eat it.

  now, some chefs are seeing the strongly flavored spread as a unique gastronomic opportunity.

  wsj's rachel pannett reports.. sydneyvegemite, australia's best-known condiment, is leaving a bad taste in little mouths.. beloved for generations down under, it has been derided elsewhere: formula one race-car driver mark webber travels with it in his kit and actor russell crowe eats it with tomato.

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  Half od NZers too, Charlklo, but beware it is nothing like English marmite!

  I eat any and all of these varieties.
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  Aussie Delicacy Vegemite Loses Some of Its Savory Appeal

  by Scott77 in

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  the a-hedupdated may 10, 2012, 12:29 p.m. etaussie delicacy vegemite loses some of its savory appealyeasty spread is acquired taste, but kids today are a hard sell; edgers and streakersby rachel pannettvegemite is australia's best known snack, but maker kraft foods has been struggling to get a new generation of aussies to eat it.

  now, some chefs are seeing the strongly flavored spread as a unique gastronomic opportunity.

  wsj's rachel pannett reports.. sydneyvegemite, australia's best-known condiment, is leaving a bad taste in little mouths.. beloved for generations down under, it has been derided elsewhere: formula one race-car driver mark webber travels with it in his kit and actor russell crowe eats it with tomato.

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  We have frequently had a jar of vegemite and one of marmite on our pantry as taste is divided in our house. English marmite and New Zealand marmite are very different, to me English marmite is closer in taste to vegemite than to NZ marmite. NZ marmite is still temporarily unavailable and to some it certainly is black gold and yes it is blacker than either English marmite or vegemite.
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  What Draws People To The Witnesses? What Keeps Some Far Away??

  by minimus in

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  if you weren't raised in the religion, why did you get involved?.

  what issue(s) keep some from ever being attracted to the witnesses?.

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  By making asumptions and using terms such as "weak" and "gullible' you have almost hijacked your own thread. The reasons are complex and cannot be explained simplicly. Each person has a life that has affected them before becoming a jw. They too have been subjected to ways of thinking from their own upbringing that affect the way they respond. For myself I have analysed the answer to this question many times as I was a convert. I will not even bigin to elaborate here as it is obvious that many have ideas that are frequently porported and tend to classify converts in ways that are at times demeaning.

  For a variety of reasons people make decisions that are not good for them. Yes I am angry at myself for having fallen for it, but even I have trouble completely understanding it. Those of you who were born in will never truly understand, just as those outside of the organisation will never truly understand the what it is like to live in the jw world. I have lived through many difficult times, the most intense being exiting the wt, which I am well on the way to achieving. Humans are complex creatures and there is no really easy set of simple answers to this and trying to label the reasons fails to recognise the fact that we all, whether born in or convert, have been affected and harmed in some way by our association with the organisation and that is our commonality.
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  They are losing them...

  by Aussie Oz in

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  the teenagers.. via my teens i hear of plenty of baptized teens who are waaaaaaayyyyyyy left of centre.. alcohol, sex, and parties are going to claim a lot more than 'higher education' i reckon.. up yours watchtower.

  your youth don't think you are relevant.. oz.

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  I recently faded and have a teenage son.Last night he commented to me that for all the pamphlets etc available to warn youth about things, there are none warning about cults or high controlm groups. Thing is smoking is legal and known to cause physical ailments and they warn about that so why not warn about the dangers of joining groups that have the potential to mess with people's mental health. No groups needs be mentioned just the practices they have, especially the way they use behaviour, information, thought and emotional control ....the BITE model. Anyway my teenager is very perceptive and it is through him that I started to really examine things. He would never accept simple answers to complex questions, and frequently questioned the logic of banninmg reading other material if "they" were secure in having the absolute truth.

  Look forward to more young people leaving themselves and maybe nudging their parents out too, by persistently asking the questions that have no logical answer.
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  EX JW teen just signs with legendary producer!!!!!

  by Lady Liberty in

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  dear friends,.

  it has been a long time since i have posted.

  time heals much pain, and finally, my family and i have been able to move on with our life outside of jw land.. many of you became our friends, our support system, and you know very well our exit story...we were labeled, slandered and disfellowshipped for having questions regarding the date 607. we sent out letters exposing the elders and circuit overseer to over 200 families.

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  Hi Lady Liberty,

  love hearing the good news about how things are going for your family. Your daughter is evidencve enough of the benefit of using your own reasoning and conscience in bringing up yur child.

  Halo
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  Was The Internet The Clincher For You To Mentally Leave The Organization?

  by minimus in

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  i think it was for me.. i knew a lot of the history of the bible students, russell, rutherford and the "old light".

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  once i could see all of the overwhelming evidence right in front of my eyes, there was no ignoring the reality..

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  Searching the internett helped me to confirm some of the niggly doubts did have substance. I found lots of other issues too and swapping sides happened fairly quickly for me. I think I was only hanging in the organisation by a thread anyway.
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  What's the most insensitive thing you have been told while grieving?

  by 3rdgen in

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  a few years ago my 21 yr old firstborn and only son died in an accident.

  i was an active jw at the time.

  in fact , i was at the meeting when it happened.

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  What I noticed was the total lack of anything when I had a parent die, I guess when said parent never was a JW I'm not supposed to feel grief.

  So sorry for the insensitive way many of you have been treated by unthinking robots.

  The other thing that came to mind was when I was told that I could choose a new spouse in the new system...........mine never was a JW.
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  Welcome Newbies & New Posters ! How has this Board Assisted You ?

  by flipper in

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  it's nice to have you here !

  i found that this board was very supportive when i first got on it over 4 years ago .

  i still find it supportive !

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  Hi. been welcomed by a few of you already on another thread.

  I've been reading here as well as quite a few other places on the internett for a while now.

  I feel like I know some of you really well already from reading your posts.

  For now I wuill just say I am a fader, so far so good. Thanks ton all who posted about ways to deal with calls and visits, it really helped me to formulate a strategy that is working for me.

  I have, thanks to all of you, come a long way. Never undersetimate the power of what you say on here to help and encourage those who need it. Whether we post or not, it helps us. In time I may post more, but for now thanks.
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  Are you sure leaving the JW religion has made your life better?. Lurkers think twice

  by mankkeli in

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  on this forum, i have carefully read most of the experiences of those who left the jw religion, i have even read experiences that have dated back to 2001, i have read the different circumstances surrounding their exits and what ensued upon leaving.

  for the majority, i observed they are better remainning in the religion than leaving.

  what benefit is there to strain family relationship because you want to be free?, please tell me, of what value is that freedom?,.

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  Thanks for the welcome Jewel

  Halo
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  Are you sure leaving the JW religion has made your life better?. Lurkers think twice

  by mankkeli in

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  on this forum, i have carefully read most of the experiences of those who left the jw religion, i have even read experiences that have dated back to 2001, i have read the different circumstances surrounding their exits and what ensued upon leaving.

  for the majority, i observed they are better remainning in the religion than leaving.

  what benefit is there to strain family relationship because you want to be free?, please tell me, of what value is that freedom?,.

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  Hi, this is my first post on this forum although I joined quite a while ago and read here often. This thread has motivated me to reply.

  The idea that staying with the organisation to preserve relationships is absurd in the extreme. To start with the organisation itself has and does destroy relationships within our families. Many like myself find themselves facing this harsh reality and our family has already been shattered, for me the very thought of being coersed to shun a family member is the reason I left. I am happier than I have been in years, the cloud of depression than had hung over my life has been lifted. For sure the transition period of managing my exit and balancing my life was stressful in the extreme, but just as they say in the org 'taste and see that Jehovah is good" I say to you "taste and see that life on the outside is worth it"

  I have sat on both sides of the fence as have most who post here and I like my view from the outside much better. BTW many JWs don't have a charmed supportive social network, that is a myth.