Posts by Nobleheart

40 or so singers from all different countries all come together for a massive show where they all sing their song for 3 mins and then move on for the next singer.

Nobleheart

Hi Timmy,

I'm from Europe and the song contest is popular here. I do enjoy it especially the well written balads...well the dancy, rhythmic ones aren't too bad either for entertainment purposes :)

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Answer I got to the UN association.

by Inisc in

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so, this a long story but i'll try to keep it short.

this was about 2years ago,.

my wife brought up the un thing to my parents, much to their horror and despite me advising her not to.

Nobleheart

My experience with my family is quite similar. In the beginning they refused to listen to anything against the Society, flat out refusing to believe any such 'alliance' with the UN ever took place.

I then also challenged them to ask an elder (who'd know) saying my study had asked about that. Guess what, the first reply my family got from this elder was that it was a lie and a hoax :) sounds the same as your elder.

I then got his email and presented him with the link (supposedly provided by my study)...he emailed back days later writing "I'm sorry your study has been exposed to apostate propaganda" with 2 attachments - one being a letter to the elders admitting the Society's registering as a NGO at the DPI to gain access to the library, the other attachment being a rather long document by some JW apologist trying to justify matters, explaining that the WT had broken no laws, wasn't lying, etc..

You can imagine how happy I felt considering that this elder had just confirmed my side of the story, and imagined my family would wake up...Unfortunately as in your case, my family believed the 'apologist' version and that was the end of that!

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What's Your Status? Are You Technically Still A JW?...

by minimus in

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are you disfellowshipped, disassociated, active, inactive???

?.

Nobleheart

DAed, I sent my letter last year. It was one of the most liberating things I've ever done.

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I believe I just removed my last tie to the borg...

by TimothyT in

well thats it ladies and gents.

i levelled with the sister who continues to chat with me, telling her i will never return to the organisation and my reasons why.

i hope i didnt hurt her but i have done what i could never do and tell her things the way they absolutely are.

Nobleheart

Don't feel bad about it. It's her choice for cutting the ties and not your own. She's choosing the org (authority of 7 men) over your friendship.

You can still hope and pray that what you sent her does resonate within her if not at present, perhaps in the future.

You never know what might happen down the road to cause her to start thinking and consider your conversations. Just be open about accepting her back in case she changes her mind.

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Diseases that force you to violate Jehovah's commands

by rebel8 in

a few days ago i ate a corn nut that was kind of sharp.

it made a very tiny scratch on my tongue the size of a period (.).

i have a bleeding disorder so it bled for 3 hours.

Nobleheart

1) Chronic fatigue syndrome and 2) depression were 2 medical conditions that made people miss numerous meetings in my KH. (and they weren't considered weak for it)

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Awake! June 2012 21 confirms that Andre has moved to East Timor

by therevealer in

i am happy to say that andre, my relative,.

serves at the east timor office of jehovah's.

witnesses..

Nobleheart

Andre also got involved in "apostasy" but after doing some research returned to the congregation.

From Feb 15th 2011 Watchtower

Andre, who had served Jehovah for years, had the bitter experience of being led astray

by apostate thinking. He felt that having a quick look at an apostate Web site would

not be dangerous.He recalls: “Initially, I was attracted to the so-called truths that the

apostates spoke of. The more I examined what they said, the more I came to think

that I was justified in leaving Jehovah’s organization.

But later, as I did some research on the apostates’ arguments against Jehovah’s

Witnesses, I became aware of how crafty the false teachers were. Information

taken out of context was their ‘strong evidence’ against us. Thus, I decided to start

reading our publications again and to attend the meetings. Soon I realized how

much I had missed.” Happily, Andre returned to the congregation."

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Please keep our buddy SD-7 in your thoughts (and prayers)!

by serenitynow! in

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sd-7 texted me today.

his wife is in labor, has had some complications and is having an emergency c-section.

he asked me to spread the word to the folks on jwn.

Nobleheart

Congratulations SD 7! I'm glad your wife and son are in good health!

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Our door to door activities were a personal ministry and not recognised as representatives or volunteers of the Watchtower Bible And Tract Society

by smiddy in

how do you feel about that ?were you misled (again) after all these years ?

this article from the newspaper in the latrobe area reffering to steven unthanks case is truly disturbing.

its an affront and an insult to any and everyone who has participated in the ministry of jehovah`s witnesses over many, many years.talk about being thrown to the wolves.how low can this organization go in saving face at the expense of those whose loyalty and devotion is discarded for a perceived image.absolutely shocking.

Nobleheart

I distinctly remember from Pioneer School one important aspect of conducting Bible studies was directing them to the Organization.

When asked when we should start mentioning the Organization, our CO said: Asap, even from the first study session.

In practice this included inviting studies to the meetings, special talks, memorial, assemblies, etc. Additionally bringing different brothers/sisters in the study to acquaint the person with the brotherhood. Showing them the KH and it's parts (literature counter, main hall, etc.). Taking the studies to Bethel for a taste of the organization in action. And how about watching the videos with them (JWs -- The Organization behind the name) or the newer ones about the History of the organization?

How can all these efforts not be centering around the organization?

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Random Questions

by DT in

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i just had some random thoughts and questions and decided it might be tiresome to start a different thread for each one, so i'm consolidating.. suppose someone had a sign showing a picture of a gun pointed at you and a caption saying "this shun gun is pointed at you.

" then suppose this sign was shown to visiting jehovah's witnesses without saying a single word.

how do you think they would react?.

Nobleheart

Ding's comment about the doctrine of the trinity was correct.

The Christian Apologetics & Research Ministry has this to say:

"It is the doctrine that there is only one God, not three, and that the one God exists in three persons: Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The Father isn't the same person as the Son, the Son isn't the same person as the HS, etc."

Modalism would be the nontrinitarian belief that God is a single person who throughout the Bible has revealed himself in 3 modes or forms, first as the Father in the OT, next as the Son at the incarnation, and after Jesus' ascension as the HS.

Info from carm.org