Posts by pontoon

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Re-read Animal Farm.

by The Rebel in

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i was one of many witness children, who studied this book in english literature class.. having re-read it as an adult it addressed so many issues i have with the organisation.

including maniputive control, the re-writing of history etc etc.

so many of the characters in the book, resembled characters i have known in the organisation.. boxer- loyalty without questioning.. squeler- a character who doesn't care about truth, and uses rhetoric of language to twist truth.. clover-who silently questions decisions, but stays loyal.. if your young, or old i would suggest reading this small book, by george orwell.

pontoon

I sure remember Animal Farm. In grade school one of the first books that turned me into a reader. Been 50 years since then so I don't remember specific characters but i'll refer to AF in this context; hire 2, 3, 5, 10 people (doesn't matter) all the same job tittle, same status, same experience, same pay, put them all on the same job, 4 things are likely to happen. (1) One person is going to take the lead and start giving direction. (2) That person will allay with a person that is the most ambitious to follow his direction and require others to. (3) Everyone else is happy to have others do their thinking and decision making for them. They'll follow direction, even looking to these 2 for direction. (4) The person that hired all these people in the first place will recognize and begin to use him as the foreman of the group.

That was a good post Rebel

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$25,000 for one-day assembly in our area

by Bonnie_Clyde in

they started out with a $3,500 carry-over but by the end of the day they were short $25,000.

the speaker eloquently beseeched the audience to go the atm machines and give their generous contribution or at least their widow's mite.

after the sessions were over, our friend who attended walked from one end of the assembly hall and then to the other end and noticed long lines up to both machines with people who couldn't wait to run up their credit cards.

pontoon

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ The assemblies and conventions are the BIG MONEY MAKERS for the corporation. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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Jehovah allowing this Russia to happen?

by pontoon in

so the brother that works in my office was talking about this russia thing, how jeh is "allowing" it to happen, how every witness is writing a letter to all six officials and not just to two or three, so my question was if that is true "aren't all you witnesses working against jehovah---he must have his reasons for allowing it to happen.

back to work but i'm sure monday he'll have an answer like what a great witness it is or how it gives every other witness a chance to demonstrate their faith (by writing letters).

i'll have an answer ready for him just for fun.. i'm sure watchtower just loves stuff like this russia business.

pontoon

So the brother that works in my office was talking about this Russia thing, how Jeh is "ALLOWING" it to happen, how every witness is writing a letter to ALL SIX officials and not just to two or three, so my question was if that is true "aren't all you witnesses working against Jehovah---he must have his reasons for allowing it to happen."

Back to work but I'm sure Monday he'll have an answer like what a great witness it is or how it gives every other witness a chance to demonstrate their faith (by writing letters). I'll have an answer ready for him just for fun.

I'm sure Watchtower just LOVES stuff like this Russia business. It's a rallying cry.

It reminds me of when we were building Newburgh Assembly Hall and the project caught fire, numerous fire companies responded and the brand new hall suffered very bad smoke damage. The spin on that was it was God who allowed it to happen----- what a great witness it was to the neighborhood, firemen, responders, etc........my take on it was couldn't the Almighty God of the Universe find another way to cause a great witness other than letting our brand new almost done assembly catch fire??

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“Well…it was a test”, says a laid-off Bethelite

by My Name is of No Consequence in

i got this account second hand.

a former bethelite was reassigned to a local congregation.

he had been at bethel for years and is now in his fifties.

pontoon

Bethelite doesn't get it yet. He's out in service......that's crazy, by now he should be doing something for himself every minute..... even if he has to be a Walmart greeter or a parking lot shopping cart collector. If he is out in service he still believes Jah is going to provide. Don't deride him too much, we all use to believe it.

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February 26, 2017 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS Re: Witnessing in Public Places

by wifibandit in

february 26, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: witnessing in public places.

and.

february 25, 2017 to all congregations re: magnetic boards and posters for public witnessing.

pontoon

I can remember talks about "handling the Word aright." and it had to do with how we physically handled the bible, it was important to let people see how well we knew scripture and quickly be able to find verse we were looking for, even allowing people to see how marked up our bibles were but not ragged and falling apart. Yea, they talked about that in talks, service meeting parts. Is that now a thing of the past? Carts and tablets are in, bibles out???

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What not to say...

by joey jojo in

hey guys.

i was recently talking to a old friend who is a very active elder.

i was talking about ' the truth' and he suggested i sounded like an apostate because i used terms like ' the society' and ' watchtower '.. i am aware that ' dubspeak ' has changed over the years and i am pretty sure that someone posted about it here but i can't find the thread.

pontoon

Joey JoJo-----Just call it the corporation, see how that good that goes over.....

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February 26, 2017 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS Re: Witnessing in Public Places

by wifibandit in

february 26, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: witnessing in public places.

and.

february 25, 2017 to all congregations re: magnetic boards and posters for public witnessing.

pontoon

Wat corp provides the equipment, the tracts, picks the locations, approves who can do it, gets the money, publisher assumes all responsibility. Never, never would hold up in court. All the wat lawyers must have slipped on the ice and hit their heads

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"Are they charging admission to tour Warwick?"

by My Name is of No Consequence in

my wife and son were talking about going to warwick to tour the new facility.

apparently the local dubs are getting together and chartering a bus.

jokingly, i asked my son: "are they charging admission to tour warwick?

pontoon

MY GUESS----They own two former hotels (former Marriott and Hampton) and a dinner next to the ex-Hampton. These are very near their flagship Newburgh Assembly Hall, not far from Watchtower Farm, Patterson, media production facility, and a little further to Warwick but not far. Bet there will be overnight arranged tours where tourist will be housed, fed, and carted around all arranged and provided for by the society. It'll be another $$$$$ making provision from Jeh. Who wants to bet me?

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one thing about all these pedophiles cases i cant understand is..

by nowwhat? in

as a parent, if it was my kid i would go straight to the police and or beat the living shit out of the perpetrator.

were all these parents of the victims brain dead or that indoctrinated?.

pontoon

Both. Brain dead is the result of indoctrination.

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Short stay

by midnight in

after much research and prayer i am returning to being a jehovah's witness i can find nothing that eliminates them from being god's directed people , in the end they will reach the end of there journey despite mistakes and errors just like the israelites entered the promised land , thanks for your input and all the best on your personal journey ☺.

midnight..

pontoon

Don't forget to confess to the elders your trip into apostate land. They'll form a committee, meet with you, question you about your involvement with questions like how many times did you visit apostate web sites?, how many different sites?, how long you been doing this?, what other secret sins are you hiding?..........Good luck