There must be some evidence or indications in old WT publications about the 1914 predictions. Maybe some newspapers from 1910-1915 could shed some light on the effect it had on the Bible Students of those years. My guess is though it was over shadowed by the WWI news coverage. Maybe Barbara Anderson could be of help with this. I am quite interested in this subject. Interesting that history repeated itself in 1975, and very few would see through it. It is really disgusting how many peoples lifes were and still are ruined by this type of scam. The effects of 1975 are still very present today. I am thinking already for quite some time that the society is up for a new version of the 1975 debacle, somewhere in the next 2 decades or so. It would explain the efforts to hide and falsify their own history. Although many quit after '75, the net result of increase was really big. It is hard for these greedy GB 2.0 members not to do the same exercise again on their watch. Hopefully the internet will help us to stop it in time.
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Brothers committed suicide over 1914
by stev inthis excerpt gives the information that brothers committed suicide over the disappointment of 1914. i have never heard this before.
http://towerwatch.com/articles/caputo_appeal_committee_meeting.htm
i met a woman in florida, she was ninety-three years old...a sister.
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Thank you Gayle. The download worked perfect. Interesting stats will pop up soon. I am thinking about making a little analysis about the european and/or industrialized countries.
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I'm a very happy witness of Jehovah
by ELPIRO ini kinda figured i would read many negative things concerning jw, i was not disapointed............ i say if you ae not happy not just in the jw, but anywhere, life it too short move on.. .
i myself am a wittness, an anointed witnes .
there is no shame is sharing yr hope and i am varry happy with mine.
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Oh yeah, I forgot the most important:
Elpiro, WELCOME ON THIS BOARD, we are all looking forward to your contributions.
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I'm a very happy witness of Jehovah
by ELPIRO ini kinda figured i would read many negative things concerning jw, i was not disapointed............ i say if you ae not happy not just in the jw, but anywhere, life it too short move on.. .
i myself am a wittness, an anointed witnes .
there is no shame is sharing yr hope and i am varry happy with mine.
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Would Simon or another administrator please allow ElPiro some more posts?
I am quite interested in this topic. I have a question for Elpiro as well about a recent WT article, but please answer Yknot posts first.
Just to give El Piro some background about me: I am living in Europe and I was born-in and raised as a JW, baptised as a teenager and in my thirties. I was appointed MS in the early 20ies and had many parts on meetings, public talks and bookstudy conducting included. I was 1st disappointed in my local elders, but got over that, as I got confirmed that the problems they caused were actually just applying the Society's rules. I have quit being MS by moving congo and I am inactive, although I am still quite regular at meetings. My father is a long time elder and quit university due to 1975 being so close.
The issue I have is with paragraphs 1 & 8 of the Study article on page 21 of the 15/09/2010 Watchtower. Paragraph 1 reads:
"CHRISTENDOM’S churches have human leaders, such as the pope of Rome, the patriarchs and metropolitans of the Eastern Orthodox churches, and the heads of other religions. Jehovah’s Witnesses recognize no human as their leader. They are not disciples or followers of any man. ... The international congregation of anointed Christians and their “other sheep”companions want no leader other than the one Jehovah has given them. (John 10:16) They subscribe to Jesus’ statement: “Your Leader is one, the Christ.”—Matt. 23:10."
I fully agree with this paragraph. Christians should only recognize Jesus as their leader, no human.
Then in Par 8, last sentence, it reads: "The anointed and their other sheep companions recognize that by following the lead of the modern-day Governing Body, they are in fact following their Leader, Christ."
The governing body are humans, we know their names and faces. Gerrit Losch was a circuit overseer in Austria, just to mention one. Consequently JW witnesses as religion are following humans and not Jesus as leader, as they have written themselves.
My question is this: Do you feel it is right as a christian to follow the lead of these humans instead of Jesus, thereby clearly contradicting Matt 23:10?
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My Marriage Ending...Or Other Options
by doinmypart ini don't usually post regarding my personal relationship, but i need some help.. i've been married for 20+ years (married young, both of us raised as witnesses), and my wife and i have kids.
my wife feels like i've disappointed her, made a fool of her, and betrayed her when i stopped being a witness.
other than the witness-thing we seem to have a pretty good marriage, but she can't get over the fact that i'm never going to be a witness again.
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My wife needed quite some months to wake up, and that caused a considerable amount of heat coming my direction. She also felt it as a direct threat to our marriage, as she also thought we would loose this common interest. Happily she did wake up over time, and our marriage improved as a consequence. And we still have the same common interest. If you can, try to stick it out.
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WTS sues Public Television
by Gayle injehovah's witnesses sue ra public televisionjanuary 15, 2011 - 11:40 amt 07:40 gmtpanarmenian.net - the christian religious organization of jehovah's witnesses, as well as representatives of the organization submitted a claim against the public television of armenia, as well as journalists gevorg altunyan, sona torosyan, nune alexanyan to the court of general jurisdiction of kentron and nork-marash administrative districts.. director of the center of rehabilitation and aid for the victims of destructive cults alexander amaryan told a panarmenian.net reporter that jehovahs witnesses accuse the public television of armenia of publishing and disseminating wrong information concerning their honor and dignity.. according to amaryan, court hearings will start in january.. we would like to recall that 23-year-old resident of sevan town arman torosyan, who killed his parents in november 2010, was declared a member of the organization of jehovahs witnesses.. while the organization will try to prove during the trial that the criminal is not a representatives of the organization and that similar aggressive.
behavior is not typical for the organization members.. http://www.panarmenian.net/eng/society/news/59637/jehovahs_witnesses_sue_ra_public_television.
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They might be correct that it is not a typical JW behaviour, but it is not a unique event in the JW history. Remember the bethelite recently killed in a KH by another witness in Frankfurt, Germany. The Society admitted in a letter sent to all congos in Germany the killer was a baptized JW for 2 years . For those interested I have a scan of that letter. It is in German though.
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BOE LTR Dec 26, 2010 "Increased Activity April 2011"....Transcript....
by yknot inin an effort to increase the praise and honor to jehovah and jesus christ at the time of the memorial, the governing body has arranged for a special period of increased activity during april 2011.
you will be pleased to learn that during april 2011, publishers who wish to serve as auxiliary pioneers may indicate on the application whether they will be working toward a 30-hour or 50-hour requirement for the month.
this is a special arrangement for the month of april 2011 only.
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I can confirm Nobleheart. Same happened over here. The 30 hours in April is a worldwide arrangement. My wife and I exchanged some interesting looks during the meeting. Thank you yknot for your excellent post.
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Have you answered the knock on your door?
by Inkie inhave you answered the knock on your door?.
[b]e like men who are waiting for their master to come home from the wedding feast, so that they may open the door to him at once when he comes and knocks.luke 12:36.. .
behold, i stand at the door and [song 5:2 ] knock.
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Hi Inkie. I will think about it and wait for your next posts. Thank you for taking the time to reply.
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Hello to all from Walk On
by Walk On injust joined up on this site, left the publishing company last year... been so eye opening to read this site and others, can't believe i was held like that so long.
embarrassed but hopeful and loving life!.
from british columbia, canada!.
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Hi Walk On, welcome here. Would you like to share the 8 questions you put to the elders, or at least some? I would like to prepare myself as well for the end of my fading.
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1969 Kingdom Ministry PDF
by cabasilas infor those interested in collecting the pdfs of the kingdom ministry for research purposes.. as is well known, the watchtower library cd-rom starts its coverage of kms in 1970. however, the kms from 1966 to 1969 show a bit more of the excitement relating to the prediction that 6,000 years of man's existence would run out in the year 1975.. the 1969 kingdom ministry (51 mb) can be downloaded here:.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=hrm4yyx7.
the scans were done and shared by invetigator74.
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Thank you very much!