watchtower is spending 720.000 dollars + 8 lawyer fees = at least 1 million already. well spent donation money. RO, how do you feel the watchtower is using your money to defend a recidivist pedophile?
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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents
by Simon injudge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.
imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.
by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.
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ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files
by Richard Oliver ini have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.
i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.
it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.
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Hoffnung
If the DOJ figures are correct, why is it that in every court case where a witness is brought before justice, he is found to be a reoffender already... usually this fact is well known by the elders and the service department. But he is allowed to continue. Until some victim or the parents are willing to swim against the stream and report it to the authorities.
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ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files
by Richard Oliver ini have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.
i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.
it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.
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Hoffnung
It seems very hard for Richard to accept the analysis of case files from the people who compiled them. Just like everything else that does not fit his agenda. The only conclusion that always comes to light is that watchtower always puts its own interests first, and that the children's protection is of lesser importance. The watchtower has an appalling record. The good thing for Richard is that he is still here and writing. Just like with many others, sooner or later he will understand he is defending the undefendable.
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ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files
by Richard Oliver ini have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.
i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.
it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.
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Hoffnung
the number is important to demonstrate that the witnesses have a serious problem and they do not want to do anything serious about it. they had 1006 chances to report to the authorities and they reported ... nothing. so even if the number was 500 or 200, it still would be shocking, and the witnesses knowingly put a lot of their own children in harms way. You have kids? you should start worrying now if you're still attending meetings, and letting them go in service with congo members. good luck
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Honest Questions About Child Abuse
by Richard Oliver ini have two honest questions for everyone here.
i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.
but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.
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Hoffnung
The Watchtower is not guilty of the child abuse itself, it is guilty of knowingly giving child abusers access to children, and for withholding important information from parents that enables them to protect their children. For that they have to pay damages and change their ways of working.
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Honest Questions About Child Abuse
by Richard Oliver ini have two honest questions for everyone here.
i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.
but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.
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Hoffnung
2 child abusers per large congregation known by the elders is not far fetched. Even when it is only 1, remember he will do a lot of damage to a lot of kids. Just imagine one of them is yours. And you will never be informed to protect Jehovah's name. That is what's going on, all the time
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Honest Questions About Child Abuse
by Richard Oliver ini have two honest questions for everyone here.
i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.
but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.
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Hoffnung
Other organizations and churches have organized independent contact points to ensure that the process is free of any conflict of interest and the authorities are informed right away. Jehovah's Witnesses have no excuse whatsoever for not participating in such a thing.
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Honest Questions About Child Abuse
by Richard Oliver ini have two honest questions for everyone here.
i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.
but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.
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Hoffnung
The investigation of the Royal Commissioner in Australia gave an average of at least 1 child abuser per congregation. The Australian betel has 1000 child abusers on file for 60000 publishers. That is 1 per 60. If you have kids, and you are in a congregation of 120 publishers, you are exposing your kids continuously to 2 child abusers. Do you know them... or did the society not bother to inform you... good luck -
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Honest Questions About Child Abuse
by Richard Oliver ini have two honest questions for everyone here.
i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.
but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.
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Hoffnung
Child abuse is a crime that is more devastating than many others. It destroys the future of a very young individual, when they are too young to protect themselves. A child abuser is very hard to recognize. They are known to be masters in deception. However almost all of them will do it again, time and again, given the chance. The watchtower organization knows this 3 deadly factors as they published it themselves in 1993. So it is of paramount importance to protect all children, to make sure that any accusation is properly investigated to determine whether person x or y effectively committed this crime, and consequently bar this confirmed child abuser from all access to children. Any policy, that gives a person accused of child abuse, access to children before the accusation has been cleared by properly trained and authorized persons, is facilitating a criminal of the worst kind. The Watchtower organizations instructions, to require 2 witnesses for a sin to be confirmed, to consider Jehovah's name as too important for elders and parents to report a case of child abuse to the police, to not inform parents that person x can pose a risk to their children, that a confirmed child abuser can be reappointed in a position of responsibility, and so on, all facilitate child abusers amongst Jehovah's Witnesses. And even they have been pointed again and again to these problems, they are refusing to correct them. This at the cost of a lot of money and the future of their children.
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Honest Questions About Child Abuse
by Richard Oliver ini have two honest questions for everyone here.
i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.
but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.
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Hoffnung
Let s keep our heads cool. The subject is very important.