Hoffnung

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  Has a 'Christian' ever murdered somebody?

  by goddidit in

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  a jw made the claim "no christian [jw] has ever murdered anyone".. when i showed examples of such, the goalposts moved a bit with "was he a baptized, dedicated witness?".

  can anyone provide examples of murders committed by "baptized, dedicated" jws?.

  thanks.

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  Hoffnung

  Roughly 5 years ago a brother got stabbed to death by another brother in a kingdom hall in Germany. the congregation is close to bethel, and at least one bethelite was present at the occurrence. The killer committed suicide the same day
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  How do I handle this situation?

  by BarelyThere in

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  2. friends

  hey everyone.

  i'm sorry that this isn't a very thought provoking post but i could really use some advice on how to handle this.

  there isn't anyone else in my life i can ask right now because, being dfed, all of my friends are "worldly" and don't know how witnesses function.

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  Hoffnung

  There is always the possibility that your ex knows you will eventually read this messages. In that case it is just a part in taking revenge. I would not use it or mention it as long as you are DF'd. it will turn against you.

  Unless you start slacking, eventually you will be reinstated. No matter in this or another Congo. For adultery, minimum one year, probably 1.5 or 2. If you were at all meetings during 2 years, and reinstated, you can take other actions. Writing the CO,... I would NEVER bring up these messages as long as you are DF'd. It will only be used against you. However after reinstatement, it could be useful to let the MS know you have some skeleton in a closet that can come out anytime, unless they leave you alone,... or something along those lines
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  Elder School Video

  by dontfitin in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hope you guys can help me find something.

  there was a video circulating about three years ago showing a sample judicial meeting, which basically ended up with the other elders slamming the one guy who was trying to be somewhat merciful.

  of course the person was df'd.. my husband said at the meeting they actually had a talk saying that now the elders look for any reason not to df, etc.,etc.. i am trying to find that video.

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  Elders always say to their spouses and the rank and file that disfellowshipping is the last resort. That is the same as the WTBS saying to the outside world they have no policy of not reporting child abuse to the authorities. Both are lies. You might get a slap on the wrist if you had sex one time and then go on your knees to the elders. But the chances for this young man who had sex multiple times, and only comes to the elders hen sh*t hits the fan, has almost no chance whatsoever. Not coming straight to the elders after the 1st offence is seen as putting their God-given position into question... no forgiving that one...
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  The new service meeting

  by John Aquila in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i wanted to relate an experience that happened this morning.

  it is regarding the new format for the meeting on thursdays in my area.

  its not word for word but im summarizing what i heard, the best i can remember.

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  You believe these stories or not. Entirely up to you. There is however no factual element that disproves it. Point. Just use your brains. If it is not true, it will come out. If it is true, it will be confirmed. 2 witnesses rule, anyone... For now, I would give John Aquila Brown the benefit of the doubt. Cheers Hoff
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  Bethel layoffs of oldies

  by I am a Bible Student in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is this true?

  has anyone heard of it?

  saw it on my facebook.. "jan. 6 bethel update 108 elderly bethelites getting the boot.. brooklyn, ny.

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  Hoffnung

  The Dutch bethel has laid off 25%. My uncle (in his 50ies) is moving out, a former friend (in his 30ies) is allowed to stay. I guess I do not need to state that some skills not learned by the WTBS play a significant role.
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  Escape From Paradise - One year anniversary - Thanks everyone!

  by Brock Talon in

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  2. entertainment

  today marks the 1 year anniversary of the release of my second book, "escape from paradise".

  i wanted to take the time to thank everyone here who was supportive of this book and for all the great feedback i received on it.

  you guys rock.. of course, not all the feedback was pleasant.

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  Hi Brock, if this was the worst review, having read yours and hos reply, you did a very good job. Cheers Hoff
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  GB members quotes

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for a future project i'm searching for remarkable quotes of current and former gb members.. i've two personal, validated quotes:.

  "sprechen sie deutsch?

  " "ah, ein bisschen!

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  There is some Guy Pearce quote about whether or not they had Gods blessing about the Warwick project.
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  JW Statistics for "Britain" 2015 over 2014

  by freddo in

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  population listed.

  peak pubs.

  ave pubs.

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  These statistics are snapshot from August. There is no effect yet from the ARC or the cutbacks, since all happened during the summer. And even in 2016 it might still be early. It takes a while for any JW to wake up and quit, what makes someone wake up today will only appear in the numbers much later. The decrease in preached hours is a telltale sign though
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  Hello everyone! I am new here and want to tell you about myself - my bio

  by Hollywood20 in

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  grew up in east la in a bad neighborhood to a black mother and white father.

  i never knew my father because he died in a car accident when i was a few weeks old.

  my mother converted as a jw soon after when two sisters came to her door and offered her comfort, which was something she needed.

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  Hoffnung

  Welcome. You paid already high prices to keep up an image of you that you are not. Your true self will win, sooner or later. Up to you to decide whether you shape the circumstances, or let it happen by others. Obviously the 2nd option is far more painful for all involved. And it might be late pursue your dreams when it comes. So think ahead, slowly withdraw yourselves without raising suspicions, and nobody will put so much efforts into stopping you as they did 1st time. Grow to independence, reduce your activity in the congo, and absorb yourselves into other wholesome activities (sports, hobby's, music...)
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  How to evade questions from elders when you stop going out door to door

  by Olivia Wilde in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  due to circumstances right now i cannot leave permanently the watchtower, however i need honest advice of what to say when elders question me how come im not meeting the group out for door to door & going out in " field service"... what would be proper responses not to draw suspicions since i'm aware of ttatt.. .any serious advice please...

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  Hoffnung

  If reporting hours is not a problem, just report fake numbers. You can always claim to preach these few hours with family members or with a friend in a neighbor congregation.

  If you do not want to report any more, and someone wants to make an appointment, set it up, and cancel it the night before. something unexpected has come up or whatever. If you that 2 times, they will not bother you any more.