on this forum, i have carefully read most of the experiences of those who left the jw religion, i have even read experiences that have dated back to 2001, i have read the different circumstances surrounding their exits and what ensued upon leaving.
for the majority, i observed they are better remainning in the religion than leaving.
what benefit is there to strain family relationship because you want to be free?, please tell me, of what value is that freedom?,.
JonathanH,
Spot on, but it's even worse than that. From the OP
Participate in the preaching work and encourage fellow christains as much as possible, this demeanor will not harm you.
Mank is proposing that unbelievers not only pretend to believe, but try to convert others.
Completely dishonest and morally bankrupt!
on this forum, i have carefully read most of the experiences of those who left the jw religion, i have even read experiences that have dated back to 2001, i have read the different circumstances surrounding their exits and what ensued upon leaving.
for the majority, i observed they are better remainning in the religion than leaving.
what benefit is there to strain family relationship because you want to be free?, please tell me, of what value is that freedom?,.
Retrovirus - If you trully know what ethics are, how does that shield your obsession with the JWs?
Mankkeli, I know what ethics are. As can anyone with a dictionary. What is your basis for assuming I'm obsessed with JW's?
on this forum, i have carefully read most of the experiences of those who left the jw religion, i have even read experiences that have dated back to 2001, i have read the different circumstances surrounding their exits and what ensued upon leaving.
for the majority, i observed they are better remainning in the religion than leaving.
what benefit is there to strain family relationship because you want to be free?, please tell me, of what value is that freedom?,.
Lurkers please I beg you, hold on to what you have, dont walk along the same path with those who have left for decades and keep ranting here to get some therapy. leaving doesnt worth it after all. Remain in the organization, keep your senses and maintain a good balance, Participate in the preaching work and encourage fellow christains as much as possible
So, you want people who have doubts to stifle them and actively recruit others to believe what they cannot?
I suggest you find out what ethics are and get some.
Retro
in the dec.15th jw only version in an article titled " do not let illness rob you of joy " it promotes being a martyr in jehovah's witnesses preaching door to door in spite of debilitating and often life threatening illnesses .
ask yourself if jesus would have stood with a whip to the back of his disciples if they had these illnesses or medical conditions ??.
under the subheading entitled " they keep preaching despite chronic illness " with pictures of these alleged sick people sharing how they " sacrifice " to spread the wt society's message i will share the quotes with my takes.. izabella who suffers depression states, " i like the door to door ministry , but when i am not feeling up to it , i engage in telephone witnessing.
Jehovah can give you strength by means of his holy spirit, his word, and the Christian brotherhood
This part is just as bad a guilt trip. If you're doing well, you aren't doing enough. But if you feel terrible, and not benefiting from this vague "support", you must be spiritually weak!
hi,.
i am an active jw, still single and i live with my jw family.
i have tried to instill critical thinking skills to my sister and she has gladly accepted them.. i really want to tell her how i feel about the wt and their teachings but i'm not sure if i should.
From my limited experience, ask her questions rather than "come out" with statements that may be very hard to retract later. Such as, "how would you explain to latest generation teaching to an interested one, in your own words?"
IOW, plant seeds. If you're lucky, in time she'll start expressing doubts.
we already read crisis of conscience which was incredible, but if you are canadian, you need to read crisis of allegiance.
my husband knows a lot of the players and if you're an ex-canadian elder you probably will too.
he is just riveted and i can't wait to read it next!.
Is it the one in this thread?
i have deceided that this year i would like (if you will indulge me) lots of different traditions from lots of different countries and cultures.... so what have you got??.
i also want to hear what makes your christmas super special... what do you do to make up for all those lost years.. babysprout really believes in santa... all the kids in her class have been telling her he isn't real.
i mean what is this, a class full of dubbies??
Last year I had backpackers from Europe staying and we celebrated Advent. We made a wreath with four candles and decorated it. Each Sunday leading up to Christmas we lit one more candle. We also made cookies called 'Zimtsterne' - cinnamon stars - but I didn't have a cookie cutter, so we made lots of rather creative shapes as well.
My parents did all this when we were small, so it brought back some great memories. Still need a bit more practice with the cookies, though!
i'm posting an article about dignity because i think it's something the board would like and it kind of ties in with the "undeserved kindness/grace" topic.
enjoy:.
dignity... we all crave it, so why do we keep ignoring it?by donna hicks.
Thank you, mrsjones5, marking and BTTT
i know there's plenty.. one that comes to mind is the blood doctrine.
whole blood is bad, blood fractions may be ok but not all.....wtf?
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Qcmbr:
That god's chosen , final message would come via factually incorrect, badly illustrated, childlike publications hidden in laundromats.
But - reading those magazines will give you the equivalent of a college degree at least . .
i'm wondering what to reply to someone who said the main message of the "truth" is the same.
that jehovah is god and he sent his only-begotten son to die for us,so that,we could have everlasting life on earth.. the rest of the changes don't really matter to them.
that witnesses are the only religion to teach this and the only ones preaching it.
The rest of the changes don't really matter to them.
Classic CD right there. They know there are changes and fear they are significant, and don't want to know any more.
I'd say it's no use discussing beliefs with that person at this time . . . wish I'd known this earlier. .
