Retrovirus

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  Are you sure leaving the JW religion has made your life better?. Lurkers think twice

  by mankkeli in

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  on this forum, i have carefully read most of the experiences of those who left the jw religion, i have even read experiences that have dated back to 2001, i have read the different circumstances surrounding their exits and what ensued upon leaving.

  for the majority, i observed they are better remainning in the religion than leaving.

  what benefit is there to strain family relationship because you want to be free?, please tell me, of what value is that freedom?,.

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  Lurkers please I beg you, hold on to what you have, dont walk along the same path with those who have left for decades and keep ranting here to get some therapy. leaving doesnt worth it after all. Remain in the organization, keep your senses and maintain a good balance, Participate in the preaching work and encourage fellow christains as much as possible

  So, you want people who have doubts to stifle them and actively recruit others to believe what they cannot?

  I suggest you find out what ethics are and get some.

  Retro
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  Dec.15th WT -WTS Expects JW's to Preach Despite Chronic Illness - Sick !

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in the dec.15th jw only version in an article titled " do not let illness rob you of joy " it promotes being a martyr in jehovah's witnesses preaching door to door in spite of debilitating and often life threatening illnesses .

  ask yourself if jesus would have stood with a whip to the back of his disciples if they had these illnesses or medical conditions ??.

  under the subheading entitled " they keep preaching despite chronic illness " with pictures of these alleged sick people sharing how they " sacrifice " to spread the wt society's message i will share the quotes with my takes.. izabella who suffers depression states, " i like the door to door ministry , but when i am not feeling up to it , i engage in telephone witnessing.

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  Jehovah can give you strength by means of his holy spirit, his word, and the Christian brotherhood

  This part is just as bad a guilt trip. If you're doing well, you aren't doing enough. But if you feel terrible, and not benefiting from this vague "support", you must be spiritually weak!
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  Coming out of the closet to my sister

  by FrankWTower in

  1. social
  2. family

  hi,.

  i am an active jw, still single and i live with my jw family.

  i have tried to instill critical thinking skills to my sister and she has gladly accepted them.. i really want to tell her how i feel about the wt and their teachings but i'm not sure if i should.

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  From my limited experience, ask her questions rather than "come out" with statements that may be very hard to retract later. Such as, "how would you explain to latest generation teaching to an interested one, in your own words?"

  IOW, plant seeds. If you're lucky, in time she'll start expressing doubts.
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  Read This Book: Crisis of Allegiance

  by headisspinning in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  we already read crisis of conscience which was incredible, but if you are canadian, you need to read crisis of allegiance.

  my husband knows a lot of the players and if you're an ex-canadian elder you probably will too.

  he is just riveted and i can't wait to read it next!.

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  Is it the one in this thread?
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  I want your Christmas traditions!

  by watersprout in

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  2. friends

  i have deceided that this year i would like (if you will indulge me) lots of different traditions from lots of different countries and cultures.... so what have you got??.

  i also want to hear what makes your christmas super special... what do you do to make up for all those lost years.. babysprout really believes in santa... all the kids in her class have been telling her he isn't real.

  i mean what is this, a class full of dubbies??

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  Last year I had backpackers from Europe staying and we celebrated Advent. We made a wreath with four candles and decorated it. Each Sunday leading up to Christmas we lit one more candle. We also made cookies called 'Zimtsterne' - cinnamon stars - but I didn't have a cookie cutter, so we made lots of rather creative shapes as well.

  My parents did all this when we were small, so it brought back some great memories. Still need a bit more practice with the cookies, though!
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  Dignity

  by mrsjones5 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm posting an article about dignity because i think it's something the board would like and it kind of ties in with the "undeserved kindness/grace" topic.

  enjoy:.

  dignity... we all crave it, so why do we keep ignoring it?by donna hicks.

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  Thank you, mrsjones5, marking and BTTT
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  Out Of All JW Beliefs Which Is The Weirdest?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i know there's plenty.. one that comes to mind is the blood doctrine.

  whole blood is bad, blood fractions may be ok but not all.....wtf?

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  Qcmbr:

  That god's chosen , final message would come via factually incorrect, badly illustrated, childlike publications hidden in laundromats.

  But - reading those magazines will give you the equivalent of a college degree at least . .
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  How Would You Answer...?

  by EmptyInside in

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  2. beliefs

  i'm wondering what to reply to someone who said the main message of the "truth" is the same.

  that jehovah is god and he sent his only-begotten son to die for us,so that,we could have everlasting life on earth.. the rest of the changes don't really matter to them.

  that witnesses are the only religion to teach this and the only ones preaching it.

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  The rest of the changes don't really matter to them.

  Classic CD right there. They know there are changes and fear they are significant, and don't want to know any more.

  I'd say it's no use discussing beliefs with that person at this time . . . wish I'd known this earlier. .
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  How Have you Counted your time for Pioneering?

  by jehu or jehonadab in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  just woundering how have you counted your time in field service especially if you were pioneering?.

  would like to see if any of you were on the same page as i was.

  with so much to do, like reading all the watchtower and awake each month and the bible reading each week.

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  The whole counting-time thing sounds like my early jobs - pay was by hours and you were paid less if you finished to quickly. Yes, I dawdled and since the time I took was quite comparable to others, no repercussions. Nor do I have any regrets. It was more important to me to bring home the most money for my children than to provide my employer with the best possible value.

  When I was paid by results - that all changed.

  If you believe in what you are doing and work with a passion, you cannot and don't want to cut corners. I see the blown-up hours reported as a sign of something wrong with the "service", not the people.

  Poor Teary.
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  Newbie to the Boards !

  by TheOutSpoken1 in

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  2. friends

  id like to introduce my self as im new......a lil nervous but ready to have some conversation that doesnt require me to rely on old men in ny to think for me.

  im tired of the puppetteering, the sly green handshakes to move up, the lies turned into new light- "what happened to yes means yes?

  ", just has the makings of a bad ponzi scheme in my opinion...i officially begun my fade this year.....and im enjoying it.

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  Retrovirus

  Welcome from a non-jw

  Good on you for going to college? What course are you completing?

  Also suggest you check out jwfacts for an excellent summary of the religion