i've been df'd since last september.
i haven't heard from my ex-best friend in about 6 months.
so all of a sudden she emails me yesterday asking one simple question:.
Send her the definition of love as is found in 1st Corinthians. Then ask her how her email could fall into any of those categories.
Tell her you miss her friendship but never realized until now how judmental and cold hearted she was. Wish her well and then silently thank whatever diety you may believe in if any that you are no longer of that sort.
It is tough to go through this kind of thing, but the high road has a great view!!
Kismet
dear friends:.
please be very careful about information you post here, and in private e-mail, particularly if you send e-mail to the individual who posts under the moniker "anewperson".. "anewperson" has time and time again completely ignored the court order restricting public release of information that could reveal shunned father's identity to people who are aware of his court case, leaving him liable for fines by the court, when he is already deeply in debt for legal expenses.
"anewperson" has divulged shunned dad's name, place of employment and work e-mail address on multiple occasions.
Scully:
Thank you for posting this thread. I think it is a great reminder to all that there are more important things going on than who can post what information first.
The fact that this person has time and again disregarded requests for discretion should make it evident to most that he cannot be trusted.
I had thought of posting something similar about anewperson but felt that it would be disregarded due to my known annoyance of fundies who try to replace their own "truth" for that lost to those who leave the JW sect.
Thakn you for bringing this to our attention and I hope people heed your suggestions. I also wanted to thank you for your contributions ot the site.
We can always count on an intelligent perspective from you and your medical research is greatly appreciated!!
Kismet
i have been holding back through the first two rounds as i get to excited to shout and scream.
today for the first time i drove around with my flag on the truck.
i can`t get my hopes up to soon as i usually do but i can`t hold back any longer "i am weak"!.
I just got home from celebrating the win!!! My boys in blue did it!!! What heart! What grit!! 7 of their regular line up out on injury list yet they managed to get into the conference final round.
Goes to show you what grit and determination can do.
GO LEAFS GO!!!!!!!!
Kismet
in a few more days i'll be making my departure from the wts, part of me is relieved and yet another part of me is dreading the drama i'll be going through shortly.
i've been trying to prepare myself for the deluge of questions that i know are sure to come from my family.
my wife will be the first person i tell obviously and then i'll tell my mother and younger brother.
You mentioned that you do not want to DA yourself. If that is the case I would suggest that you not give anything in writing. When you are ready approach the PO. Tell him that "due to personal reasons I need to step aside (proper Theocratese)from my responisiblities as a MS. For the moment I would ask not to be assigned any parts in the Service Meeting and I plan on talking to brother School Overseer and withdraw from the school for now as well. I'm not sure for how long but this is something I have to do right now."
By using this approach you are not making anything formal. It is just like you cannot handle things right now and need a break. I have seen some bodies of elders use a simple note like you present as grounds for announcing you disassociated yourself. Never put anything in writing!
Many when they find out the truth about 'the truth' get an almost newfound zeal in preaching to others about what they learned. I am sure you have seen the zeal of a new person in the congregation and often they have to be told to tone it down or else they will turn off people with their message. The same 'righteous over much' attitudes are there with newly appointed elders.
Some when they leave the Borg can do the same. You know the people involved in your life. I don't. Just don't let your newfound information cause you to burn any bridges that don't have to be burned. Especially with your family. The softer the approach he better it has gone for many. Some (tipping hat to Farkel) have had better success with the 2x4 approach (tho Farkel really does have a soft side to him that helps too) but a softer approach will usually preserve familial relationships far more than if you are labelled apostate.
Regardless of how you do it, I wish you well and good luck. It is a tough time at first but the freedom and peace of mind that I found when I left the Borg is wonderful. The sense of liberation at being able to decide for yourself what and who you like without the Society breathing down your neck using guilt to control you.
My thoughts are with you.
Kismet
i received this original email from [email protected] in regards to post i had made on the jw discussion forum on www.beliefnet.org .
hello mpatrick , ya know alot of the things that you quote i question are still in the truth , i am sorry if i affend you.
im 26 from new jersey and where are the true witnesses .
The thinking and writing of this person is just the pattern of the JW-think mentality. Sd really to see how little some people think for themselves.
Not sure if you are aware but it is considered poor netiquette to post private correspondence on a public message board. Is it really necessary to post her email address and webpage here?
Kismet
the title is: "jehovah's witnesses facing expulsion for abuse stance".
the same story that appeared on cnn's website has been run in my local paper, the desert sun(palm springs, ca), along with his picture.
it's on page a11, the first page, on the top, of the second section.
The AP article also made the Toronto Star:
or jsut go to http://www.thestar.ca then click on "World News"
Scroll down, you will see the headline, "Sex scandal hits church"
Kismet - hoping one of the columnists will follow up on it.
, http://www.courier-journal.com/localnews/2002/05/08/ke050802s203205.htm.
jehovah's witnesses act against abuse-policy critics .
by peter smith .
Hawk:
I have also been in touch with the Toronto Star, GTA section as well Ms. DiManno. I know she has the cajones to tackle this one. I provded some generalized stats regarding abusers who are still active JW's in various parts around the GTA. I hoped the local angle would spark interest.
We should talk soon. [email protected] is one of the better addresses to get in touch with me.
Kismet
it seems that we have many new aliases popping up right now.
all posting attacks against bill bowen personally.. note they cannot argue the facts of abuse occuring but decide to go after one of the faces that represent the whole issue at hand, bill bowen.. it just goes to show how desperate some people become trying to protect their high control religion regardless the cost to children and adult children of past abuse.. i would like to suggest that we adopt the same advice our parent's gave us while growing up as dubs.
just ignore the taunts, the insults.
Dung:
All the more reason to adapt that policy now. that way when it does get worse we will already be in the habit of giving them the silent treatment they seem to be demanding from Bill and the lambs.
Kismet
i've been gone a while and just wanted to say hi and i'm still alive.
things are kind of bad now, but i'll be back for good soon.
special hello to cowboy and xena.
April:
It is good to see you again. I hope all will be improving soon for you.
Thanks for stopping in, you have been missed.
Kismet
it seems that we have many new aliases popping up right now.
all posting attacks against bill bowen personally.. note they cannot argue the facts of abuse occuring but decide to go after one of the faces that represent the whole issue at hand, bill bowen.. it just goes to show how desperate some people become trying to protect their high control religion regardless the cost to children and adult children of past abuse.. i would like to suggest that we adopt the same advice our parent's gave us while growing up as dubs.
just ignore the taunts, the insults.
It seems that we have many new aliases popping up right now. All posting attacks against Bill Bowen personally.
Note they cannot argue the facts of abuse occuring but decide to go after one of the faces that represent the whole issue at hand, Bill Bowen.
It just goes to show how desperate some people become trying to protect their high control religion regardless the cost to children and adult children of past abuse.
I would like to suggest that we adopt the same advice our parent's gave us while growing up as dubs. Just ignore the taunts, the insults. Just walk away.
It is so tempting to take shots at the ignorant ones who come in trying to discredit the individual, but let's not feed the trolls.
Silence is what they demand from the victims, let's return that silence to them.
Don't feed the trolls.
My 2 cents
Kismet
