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  The Memorial has just Started

  by Prisca in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well, it's almost 7pm in sydney australia and no doubt some congregations would be starting their memorials very soon, if not already.

  due to the overcast conditions, i can't see the moon, but one of the special things about this time of the year is seeing the full moon, which reminds me of the specialness of the memorial ritual held for me as i was growing up.. this is the second time in my entire life that i will be absent from the memorial.

  it was strange last year to be not attending for the first time ever, but this year i feel more comfortable about it.. i'm not sure why.

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  Kismet

  This is one of the most difficult times of the year for many.

  Part of it is the guilt of not attending, part of it is the family and friends being disappointed and part is just missing the ritual.

  It has been 4 years now since my last Memorial (sounds like an AA meeting) and it is much easier now.

  If I can suggest something that helped me that first year. There was no way in hell anyone was going to get me into another church that year...still too raw after leaving. I remembered the Yearbook accounts of those countries under ban or those in concentration camps and how they celebrated the Memorial.

  So I did the same. I read the Bible passages, I prayed...A LOT. I even had the glass of wine there (which quickly disappeared followed by one or two more). That took care of God and that was the most important aspect for me. I knew in my heart that leaving the Org was the right decision. So hold your own observance of the event. It may help.

  Fortunately due to the manner in which I left I have not been under a lot of pressure form JW's to attend. I know how hard it has been for others that do get pressured from their family and have guilt trips laid on them. My only suggestion is to get out with other people tonight, or maybe go into chat here or somewhere else. We can get much support from our friends...one's that don't judge us as to where we are tonight.

  Tho my beliefs now are far different than 4 years ago, doing the above got me through the first year. I wish all of you well and for some it is already over for another year for others just a few more hours and then the pressure will be off.

  Good luck!

  Kismet
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  Advise Please

  by WildTurkey in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  im about to disassociate myself, and would like to know from those who have been disassociated , is there anything you would have done different before you disassociated yourself?

  do you recommend writing a letter?

  i really don't want to write a letter, cause that is what they want you to do, and they will never give you anything in writing.

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  Kismet

  The Society has this little loop hole all figured out. Even if you do not write a letter they can still announce that you have disassociated yourself by your conduct

  SO a letter isn't really necessary if it becomes known that you are living a lifestyle that runs contrary to their beliefs.

  The most frequent application of this is if you join another religion or move in with someone that is not your marriage partner.

  The announcement would be the same. Brother xxxx has disassociated himself from the Christian Congregation.

  They pretty much say...fine, you don't want to cooperate, we'll just do it ourselves. However this type of announcment can and has been prevented with a well worded letter from a lawyer.

  Just more food for thought

  Kismet
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  Advise Please

  by WildTurkey in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  im about to disassociate myself, and would like to know from those who have been disassociated , is there anything you would have done different before you disassociated yourself?

  do you recommend writing a letter?

  i really don't want to write a letter, cause that is what they want you to do, and they will never give you anything in writing.

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  Kismet

  THis topic has been discussed a lot here and it all boils down to what do you want to accomplish by disassociating yourself.

  Is it for closure? To vent? Some who have felt they 'should' disaasociate themselves realized that they were only doing it because the Society has told them they should.

  I, for one, feel that they have no power over me or my spirituality. Why would I give them the satisfaction of me following their rules?

  Another unfortunate truth is that most elders will not bother even reading the whole letter, especially if it comes in novel form. So if you are hoping to get some of the elders to think .. good luck!! LOL

  So ask yourself, why do I want to disassociate myself? Much like this board, if you don't want to participate, simply stop posting. You don't have to make a formal request to be deactivated and make some public explanation. (This is not meant as a slam in any way)

  So if you don't like the JW's or you disagree with them, simply stop playing by their rules (meetings, service, letters etc).

  I know of some however that still need to write the letter wanting to have no formal or informal connection with that religious Organization.

  There are a few samples of some very well written letters here. I will see if I can dig some of them up.

  Kismet
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  SHUNNED FATHER NEEDS HELP

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i received this request for help via email ... i'm sure many will be aware of the recent events in calgary that have been discussed on the forum:.

  it is important that interested persons receive my p.o.

  box number and how they can send donations if they wish to help out in paying my huge legal bills.

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  I believe the father may be lurking here for the next while, and I hope he may participate when it is prudent for him to do so.

  So should any not be in a position to send a card or note directly, adding any words of support to this thread or any of the other ones on this topic would likely be greatly appreciated by him.

  Kismet
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  What is your Favorite perfume

  by butalbee in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what is your favorite perfume?

  how do you like to smell[lol], and how do you like your significant other to smell?

  is scent a sexual stimulant for you?

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  For me: Drakkar Noir, Quorum and Paul Sebastian Casual, but like most guys I think we wear what our GF tells us to! What do we know??? LOL

  On ladies: I like the smell of Mackie.

  Boucheron is one of the most alluring fragrances I have ever encountered but anyone who has tried it on has had it adversely react with their skin thereby affecting the fragrance..

  Harrod's of London also have a few customized blends for ladies. One will always bring back very distinct and happy memories. :) I think it was #23 or #34. I forget which.

  I find most women have a good sense of what works on them. I have never felt it necessary to try to get someone to change their choice of perfumes.

  But I agree wholeheartedly that subtle is best!! Just that little waft tickling the senses can be a major turn on! That being said, the opposite is true when someone has apparently bathed in perfume.

  And don't get me started on the 'assault with a deadly perfume' that always occurs in department stores. grrrrrrr

  Kismet
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  SHUNNED FATHER NEEDS HELP

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i received this request for help via email ... i'm sure many will be aware of the recent events in calgary that have been discussed on the forum:.

  it is important that interested persons receive my p.o.

  box number and how they can send donations if they wish to help out in paying my huge legal bills.

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  Scully:

  That would work too! Good suggestion.

  A fellow Canadian

  Kismet
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  SHUNNED FATHER NEEDS HELP

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i received this request for help via email ... i'm sure many will be aware of the recent events in calgary that have been discussed on the forum:.

  it is important that interested persons receive my p.o.

  box number and how they can send donations if they wish to help out in paying my huge legal bills.

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  Hey JT:

  Normally I would be right there with you in suppotr of your comments. I have posted a few such warnings both here and at H20.

  In this matter however, I personally can vouch for the legitimacy of this account and that it is indeed going to the shunned father in Calgary. However, if anyone is uncomfortable in sending monetary assistance, he would greatly appreciate cards of support.

  Hope that helps.

  Kismet
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  SHUNNED FATHER NEEDS HELP

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i received this request for help via email ... i'm sure many will be aware of the recent events in calgary that have been discussed on the forum:.

  it is important that interested persons receive my p.o.

  box number and how they can send donations if they wish to help out in paying my huge legal bills.

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  Kismet

  Please, as a reminder, should you become aware of this man's name it is very important legally not to make it publicly known.

  This is due to court restrictions placed upon him and all parties regarding the releasing of the family's name due to the girl involved being a minor.

  The Society has slipped a couple of times in the past in this type of situation, unwittingly releasing the real names in their interviews. They were severely chastised for it by the judiciary.

  I don't want to see that happen to this poor man who is just trying to save his daughter's life.

  Just in case someone is doubtful, I can back up the information Simon posted and confirm that the above request for help is legit.

  Kismet
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  what color are you?

  by peaceloveharmony in

  1. social
  2. humour

  hey all, i'm not sure if this has been posted before, so i apoligize in advance if you all have seen it.

  what's your color?.

  if your birthday is on....... december 23 ~ january 1...............red.

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  Kismet

  Red
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  Calgary & Kismet. Need Help.

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today i need two things.

  1. robert calvert is named in the news as lawyer for the jw father in calgary who decided to have his 16 year old daughter treated with blood transfusion to save her life.

  i need to get in touch with this attorney.

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  Kismet

  DungBeetle:

  I am sorry I am not Kismet

  I am sorry you aren't me too...I would be far better looking that way! LOL

  Marvin I have sent you an email.

  Kismet