Posts by tyu

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If God truly loved humans...why not reveal himself ? So that they could make an informed decision ?

by smiddy in

we learn from the bible that god spoke to adam ,then certain faithful ones,then after moses only the preisthood that was established,and individuals, raised as prophets,and this by the way is only a a small select group on the planet.never mind about other groups of humans.

fastforward to the era of christ ,again, god is only dealing with a small select group to advise and admonish.during the time from moses to christ he was only dealing with what became one small nation.the rest of humankind were left to their own devices.fastforward down to this 21st century we have no guidance/instruction/prophets to instruct or guide us.

( i know this is where jw`s would say but we have been preaching & teaching you god`s truths since 1879 ) all i can say their, is take your head out of the sand and look at all the changes ,corrections adjustments,re-adjustments,reversals,and failed expectations of prophecy you have published over this last century )so as to my question why hasn`t the god of the universe revealed himself to all humans of every race on all continents instead of just a small select group, if he truly was interested in the human race.

tyu

bohm: I'm sorry you took offense to my statement. I am not dehimanizing you at all and I wouldn't be writing to you if your opinion didn't matter and you weren't worth my time. We all, at times, are not intellectually honest with ourselves. I guess I was just recalling the Scripture of the rich man and poor Lazarus. The rich man lamenting his eternal damnation and asking Abraham to send his brothers a sign so that they might not end up in the same place of torment, to which Abraham responds negatively, adding that they would not believe even if someone should rise from the dead. God has sent us Jesus and we still want additional signs; that wasn't enough.

Regarding the Islam vs. Christianity comparision, I really don't see how we can compare the two. Christians are willing to be martyred for their faith; Muslims are willing to die in the process of killing others, yes, in the name of Allah, but there's a world of difference there.

BTW, from what I've read Muhammed was buried in his house, which is considered the second holiest site for Muslims. I have not seen any claim that he had risen from the dead.

Check out this as far as scientifically authenticated Christian miracles: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2640063/posts

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If God truly loved humans...why not reveal himself ? So that they could make an informed decision ?

by smiddy in

we learn from the bible that god spoke to adam ,then certain faithful ones,then after moses only the preisthood that was established,and individuals, raised as prophets,and this by the way is only a a small select group on the planet.never mind about other groups of humans.

fastforward to the era of christ ,again, god is only dealing with a small select group to advise and admonish.during the time from moses to christ he was only dealing with what became one small nation.the rest of humankind were left to their own devices.fastforward down to this 21st century we have no guidance/instruction/prophets to instruct or guide us.

( i know this is where jw`s would say but we have been preaching & teaching you god`s truths since 1879 ) all i can say their, is take your head out of the sand and look at all the changes ,corrections adjustments,re-adjustments,reversals,and failed expectations of prophecy you have published over this last century )so as to my question why hasn`t the god of the universe revealed himself to all humans of every race on all continents instead of just a small select group, if he truly was interested in the human race.

tyu

Heaven: I guess I should have included that many of us are probably descendants of some barbaric tribe (Visigoths, Vandals, etc.) and somehow our ancestors were converted. Many missionaries (Francis Xavier, Isaac Jogues) spent time with barbaric tribes, etc., learned their language and ways, and eventually won their friendship and were able to teach about Christ.

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If God truly loved humans...why not reveal himself ? So that they could make an informed decision ?

by smiddy in

we learn from the bible that god spoke to adam ,then certain faithful ones,then after moses only the preisthood that was established,and individuals, raised as prophets,and this by the way is only a a small select group on the planet.never mind about other groups of humans.

fastforward to the era of christ ,again, god is only dealing with a small select group to advise and admonish.during the time from moses to christ he was only dealing with what became one small nation.the rest of humankind were left to their own devices.fastforward down to this 21st century we have no guidance/instruction/prophets to instruct or guide us.

( i know this is where jw`s would say but we have been preaching & teaching you god`s truths since 1879 ) all i can say their, is take your head out of the sand and look at all the changes ,corrections adjustments,re-adjustments,reversals,and failed expectations of prophecy you have published over this last century )so as to my question why hasn`t the god of the universe revealed himself to all humans of every race on all continents instead of just a small select group, if he truly was interested in the human race.

tyu

Heaven: We can only be judged on what we know. If those Amazons are being the best Amazons they know how to be, I believe they can be saved. Would it be better for them to know Christ, of course, but if it's not their fault, how can they be at fault? Again, God's ways are not ours. He can lead us to Himself by different means.

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If God truly loved humans...why not reveal himself ? So that they could make an informed decision ?

by smiddy in

we learn from the bible that god spoke to adam ,then certain faithful ones,then after moses only the preisthood that was established,and individuals, raised as prophets,and this by the way is only a a small select group on the planet.never mind about other groups of humans.

fastforward to the era of christ ,again, god is only dealing with a small select group to advise and admonish.during the time from moses to christ he was only dealing with what became one small nation.the rest of humankind were left to their own devices.fastforward down to this 21st century we have no guidance/instruction/prophets to instruct or guide us.

( i know this is where jw`s would say but we have been preaching & teaching you god`s truths since 1879 ) all i can say their, is take your head out of the sand and look at all the changes ,corrections adjustments,re-adjustments,reversals,and failed expectations of prophecy you have published over this last century )so as to my question why hasn`t the god of the universe revealed himself to all humans of every race on all continents instead of just a small select group, if he truly was interested in the human race.

tyu

designs: Let's say you made a pencil, but that pencil refused to write because it wanted to be a piece of paper. How unfair would it be for that pencil to blame you for it's misery because it is not doing what is was created for?

We were created to know and love God. When we do less, we create our own misery.

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If God truly loved humans...why not reveal himself ? So that they could make an informed decision ?

by smiddy in

we learn from the bible that god spoke to adam ,then certain faithful ones,then after moses only the preisthood that was established,and individuals, raised as prophets,and this by the way is only a a small select group on the planet.never mind about other groups of humans.

fastforward to the era of christ ,again, god is only dealing with a small select group to advise and admonish.during the time from moses to christ he was only dealing with what became one small nation.the rest of humankind were left to their own devices.fastforward down to this 21st century we have no guidance/instruction/prophets to instruct or guide us.

( i know this is where jw`s would say but we have been preaching & teaching you god`s truths since 1879 ) all i can say their, is take your head out of the sand and look at all the changes ,corrections adjustments,re-adjustments,reversals,and failed expectations of prophecy you have published over this last century )so as to my question why hasn`t the god of the universe revealed himself to all humans of every race on all continents instead of just a small select group, if he truly was interested in the human race.

tyu

bohm: You are right that nothing can be proven with Muhammed. It is different with Christianity. Where are the bones of Jesus? Those 12 apostles, many of them mere fishermen couldn't have possibly pulled off the greatest scam of all time, a scam lasting 2,000 years. Would those same men and thousands (or more) after them all go through inhuman torture and death for a lie? For what reward? Wouldn't the cruel persecutions of the Romans have put a stop to that nonsense? How could Christianity have flourished instead?

Unlike Muhammed's "miracles", there are many miracles of Jesus that can even be seen today. Check out the Shroud of Turin, the tilma of Juan Diego (Our Lady of Guadalupe), the Miracle of Santarem in Portugal, the incorrupt bodies of many saints such as St. Bernadette of Lourdes, to name just a few.

With all due respect, I really don't think you would believe even if God wrote on the moon with big letters. You'd find some scientific explanation for that too.

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If God truly loved humans...why not reveal himself ? So that they could make an informed decision ?

by smiddy in

we learn from the bible that god spoke to adam ,then certain faithful ones,then after moses only the preisthood that was established,and individuals, raised as prophets,and this by the way is only a a small select group on the planet.never mind about other groups of humans.

fastforward to the era of christ ,again, god is only dealing with a small select group to advise and admonish.during the time from moses to christ he was only dealing with what became one small nation.the rest of humankind were left to their own devices.fastforward down to this 21st century we have no guidance/instruction/prophets to instruct or guide us.

( i know this is where jw`s would say but we have been preaching & teaching you god`s truths since 1879 ) all i can say their, is take your head out of the sand and look at all the changes ,corrections adjustments,re-adjustments,reversals,and failed expectations of prophecy you have published over this last century )so as to my question why hasn`t the god of the universe revealed himself to all humans of every race on all continents instead of just a small select group, if he truly was interested in the human race.

tyu

The Present Truth: It was tough to get through that link. The point is, God did not have to bring about redemption the way He did. He could have just said, "You're forgiven, I restore you to a state of grace" and it would have been done. He chose to do things this way. Why? I guess we'll only know completely after we die, but I see it that by looking at Creation, God is a God of order (look at the solar system, the human body, an atom, etc.). Adam and Eve were created and lived in peace and union with their creator. They broke that link, a divine-human link. God, being a God of order, decided that He would reverse what had happened. So He bridged the gap with a divine person, one who is truly man and truly God. Adam had life and by his sin brought death (spiritual death), so God sent Jesus Who by death brought life. It's not that God can't forgive or that He's some mean ogre to send His Son to die. God didn't have to create us or redeem us. It is all out of a motive of pure Love. Why did we need redemption? Well, if you throw a baseball through my window, I can forgive you, but my window is still broken. What is broken needs to be paid for or fixed. Jesus' death on the cross took care of that, as only a God-Man could do, the only one who could repair the relationship broken between God and man.

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If God truly loved humans...why not reveal himself ? So that they could make an informed decision ?

by smiddy in

we learn from the bible that god spoke to adam ,then certain faithful ones,then after moses only the preisthood that was established,and individuals, raised as prophets,and this by the way is only a a small select group on the planet.never mind about other groups of humans.

fastforward to the era of christ ,again, god is only dealing with a small select group to advise and admonish.during the time from moses to christ he was only dealing with what became one small nation.the rest of humankind were left to their own devices.fastforward down to this 21st century we have no guidance/instruction/prophets to instruct or guide us.

( i know this is where jw`s would say but we have been preaching & teaching you god`s truths since 1879 ) all i can say their, is take your head out of the sand and look at all the changes ,corrections adjustments,re-adjustments,reversals,and failed expectations of prophecy you have published over this last century )so as to my question why hasn`t the god of the universe revealed himself to all humans of every race on all continents instead of just a small select group, if he truly was interested in the human race.

tyu

How much do you want God to do?

He sent His Son, Who did become one like us (excepting the sin part), Who lived and taught those who were willing to listen (and those who did listen continued to teach and then write down what they heard for us), and then suffered a most cruel death and then ratified all that He said and did by rising from the dead. How often would God need to do this to be considered by you to be revealing Himself? How much more do you want?

Talk about love...He loved to the death - to give us life

If we have heard about this, why is it so impossible to think that those in India or wherever will never hear about Him? (Maybe there aren't many Christians in India, but they're there.)

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If God truly loved humans...why not reveal himself ? So that they could make an informed decision ?

by smiddy in

we learn from the bible that god spoke to adam ,then certain faithful ones,then after moses only the preisthood that was established,and individuals, raised as prophets,and this by the way is only a a small select group on the planet.never mind about other groups of humans.

fastforward to the era of christ ,again, god is only dealing with a small select group to advise and admonish.during the time from moses to christ he was only dealing with what became one small nation.the rest of humankind were left to their own devices.fastforward down to this 21st century we have no guidance/instruction/prophets to instruct or guide us.

( i know this is where jw`s would say but we have been preaching & teaching you god`s truths since 1879 ) all i can say their, is take your head out of the sand and look at all the changes ,corrections adjustments,re-adjustments,reversals,and failed expectations of prophecy you have published over this last century )so as to my question why hasn`t the god of the universe revealed himself to all humans of every race on all continents instead of just a small select group, if he truly was interested in the human race.

tyu

He reveals Himself constantly. Unfortunately most of us are too busy or loud to hear or notice.

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God is eternally Father, right?

by tyu in

ok, so i was thinking...if god is father and he is eternal, meaning no beginning and end, then, in order to be a father, you must have a son.

so god the father, must have a son who is eternal, or god could not possibly have been always father, right?.

tyu

Rosary beads or rabbit's foot? How can you even compare the two? Do you use a rabbit's foot in prayer?

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God is eternally Father, right?

by tyu in

ok, so i was thinking...if god is father and he is eternal, meaning no beginning and end, then, in order to be a father, you must have a son.

so god the father, must have a son who is eternal, or god could not possibly have been always father, right?.

tyu

Ok, so I was thinking...if God is Father and He is eternal, meaning no beginning and end, then, in order to be a father, you must have a son. So God the Father, must have a Son who is eternal, or God could not possibly have been always Father, right?