What?
No announcements on new construction?
How strange.
Posts by Vidiot
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19Two kingdom halls up for sale in our area
by Still Totally ADD indriving by a kh yesterday we saw a for sale sign in front of the building.
it's on a beautiful piece of property off a main road outside the city limits.
the building can be no more than 10 years old and is very beautiful.
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Watchtower admits false prophesy in Court of Law!
by digderidoo ina false prophesy was promulgated?
q. it had to be accepted by jehovah's witnesses?
q. error?
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Vidiot
@ dropoffyourkeylee...
Damn, I think you've nailed it.
Every aspect of the religion they overhauled was to get officially recognized church status (whilst, ironically, disdaining the "church" label, internally).
One thing though...
...I think the sweet siren call of tax exemption was the primary motivating factor.
The fact that they bend over so far backwards to keep it should be all the proof anyone needs, IMO.
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The Motive of the Governing Body
by jwfacts ini have been quiet of late, developing other interests, happy that there are a whole group of people producing great resources.
however, i found some old emails from ray franz that promoted me to write an article that answers a question i regularly receive.
it is in regards to the motive of governing body members.
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Half banana - "...all at HQ seem wedded to the concept of a divine rightness of The Organisation. In the minds of the GB and through their historical activity going back to Rutherford, it seems to me that they have sacralised the organisation (exactly as they do the Bible) to cultivate it as the product of God's hand..."
Indeed.
From Rutherford's time, a key aspect of the WTS's survival was perceiving itself that way - for two fundamental reasons...
a) ...that personal certainty enabled them to project it outward convincingly to disgruntled Christians looking for an alternative to the perceived "liberalization" of their churches, who then became the Org's newest and most active recruits, and...
b) ...to keep said recruits and justify the growth they engendered, the Org was compelled to further push the "God's Exclusive Earthly Organization" rhetoric, by effectively de-legitimizing the legitimacy of any other religion...
...but...
...running the risk of the same for the WTS if those members ever realized said rhetoric was untrue.
As a result (from their POV), they have to either...
a) ...remain Captive to the Concept, or...
b) ...admit the WTS is a "false religion" and exit, with all inherent loss involved, up to and including everything (depending on how much one has committed oneself to the Org).
As a result, the Watchtower heirarchy has evolved in a way that the higher up one goes, the more difficult that option becomes...
...to the point where at the top, any other perspective is - for all intents and purposes - impossible.
As a result, the Governing Body - whilst knowing it's wrong - still believes it's True...
...at the same time.
They have no choice.
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The Motive of the Governing Body
by jwfacts ini have been quiet of late, developing other interests, happy that there are a whole group of people producing great resources.
however, i found some old emails from ray franz that promoted me to write an article that answers a question i regularly receive.
it is in regards to the motive of governing body members.
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Vidiot
LongHairGal - "...the religion is using this crisis to ramp up their intrusiveness and corner everybody..."
Something vaguely familiar about that...
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The Motive of the Governing Body
by jwfacts ini have been quiet of late, developing other interests, happy that there are a whole group of people producing great resources.
however, i found some old emails from ray franz that promoted me to write an article that answers a question i regularly receive.
it is in regards to the motive of governing body members.
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truthlover123 - "...now --If your not on Zoom, your questioned, if you are on Zoom and don't have the camera on you at all times, other pubs want to know what is going on.. elders want you there for the 'ride along'/active phone calling service now more days that ever (and if your not on doing phone calls- they know your service record is kaput)... its a captive audience now..."
Hmm... hadn't thought of that.
I gotta say, if it actually plays out that way, it's pretty Big-Brother-ish...
...maybe this won't make fading as easy as I thought, after all.
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Jehovah’s Witnesses Sue Owners of FaithLeaks for Posting 74 Convention Movies
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/jehovahs-witnesses-sue-faithleaks-owners-over-convention-videos .
https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/05/01/jehovahs-witnesses-sue-owners-of-faithleaks-for-posting-74-convention-movies/.
the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, which oversees the jehovah’s witnesses, is suing the truth and transparency foundation and its founders ryan c. mcknight and ethan g. dodge alleging copyright infringement..
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Vidiot
After some thought...
...I suspect that they simply don't want their stuff being repurposed in a way that mocks them ('cause let's face it, Deafsturbation never gets old), or have the footage used in a manner that successfully deconstructs (and therefore undermines) WT ideology and authority.
Having the material available solely on their terms would (theoretically) prevent that.
I could be wrong.
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The Motive of the Governing Body
by jwfacts ini have been quiet of late, developing other interests, happy that there are a whole group of people producing great resources.
however, i found some old emails from ray franz that promoted me to write an article that answers a question i regularly receive.
it is in regards to the motive of governing body members.
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smiddy3 - "...answers that ranged from evasive to outrightly dishonest..."
Once again, for the newbies, lurkers, and trolls...
...if you have to cheat to defend your beliefs, your beliefs don't deserve to be defended.
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What do you make of this recent article regarding the United Nations stance towards overriding religions of the world on certain matters?
by devout_no_more infirst of all, this is my first post here on the forums even though i have been registered now for some time.
i have been faded from the jehovah's witness religion for many years now, but only recently within the past year or so gotten quite serious about it - crisis of conscience by ramond franz really kicked things off for me personally.. anyway, my wife, parents, step-sister and her husband and my half-brother are all still active jw's, so i am still exposed to them, and this is also the reason why i'm still "faded".
frankly i'd probably just as soon disassociate myself without the threat of being shunned.
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Vidiot
Hmph.
The headline probably just gave every WT Loyalist a chubby.
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have you heard anything ?
by lancelink ini was a witness from grade school ( 1976) until 2007. i seem to remember an important aspect that was always talked about at the hall as being a fact.they would say that "the rocks themselves would cry out" if the public preaching work was to stop,,,,, all i've seen and heard these past few months are the witnesses complaining about the witnessing work coming to a halt.but i've not heard one rock crying .. .
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contramundum - "received this in an email from a non jw friend this week. It made us both chuckle"
Huh.
House-to-house spamming.
Or will they start calling it the "Email-to-Email Work", now?
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Number of Kingdom Halls Worldwide
by wachttorenkijker inhow many kingdom halls are there worldwide?
even better how many in the years 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2019.. i'm asking this to get a picture of the total real estate owning of the jw and how this become to the money-cow in these days..
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Vidiot
watchtorenkijker - "...this become to the money-cow in these days."
For now.
Eventually, the family silver runs out, though.
