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  Tips for a Slow Fade

  by Huxley1979 in

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  2. friends

  i'm a born and raised witness.

  i was an elder for almost 20 years.

  almost the same in fulltime service.

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  Vidiot

  Sometimes quietly moving without leaving a forwarding address works.
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  Update on the ARC into Institutionalised Child Sexual Abuse

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  "if by 30 june 2020 an institution has failed to signify their intention to join the scheme, they will be immediately publicly identified by the scheme in accordance with scheme legislation and jurisdictions will consider other appropriate action.

  this may include financial sanctions applied by state, territory or commonwealth governments, and changes to an organisation's charitable status.

  naming institutions is necessary to ensure that people wanting to access the scheme know the status of relevant institutions.".

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  Vidiot

  The WTS will never sign up, nor were they ever going to...

  ...(capitulating to any pressure from "Satan's World" this close to the End notwithstanding), to do so would be tantamount to admitting there was/is a problem and that they are culpable... and they'd rather gargle with battery acid.

  They'll try and spin public shaming (of failure to join) as martyrdom and the loyalists will probably buy it, but that's to be expected... anyone with half a brain will realize that it doesn't even come close to, say, arrest and imprisonment for their convictions (i.e. the real deal).

  There's no guarantee that financial sanctions will be effective, since WTHQ had the bulk the Aussie savings transferred out of the country a couple years back (super-likely in anticipation of this very issue, which indicates that they never intended to join the redress scheme from the beginning)...

  ...but...

  ...loss of tax-exemption?

  That might actually make things difficult, in no small part because...

  a) ... I strongly suspect that the Org's business model has become highly dependent on it's charity status, and...

  b) ...how the fuck do you spin "paying back Caesar's things to Caesar" as "persecution"?
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  Things that you may see and experience once you get involved with the JWS

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there are numerous experiences you might see once getting involved with the jws.. things that come to mind are as follows ........... getting lied to by dishonest men (gb) running an unregulated religoius publishing house.

  (wts).

  these men created an apostate (commercialized) version of the gospel of jesus and the new to come kingdom order, many from both inside and outside of the organization are starting to realize that .. your mostly likely are getting to be pressured and quilted into spreading about the wts's literature to the public in hours of service as they describe it, with all the attached false doctrines this organization's top leaders make.. you will be closely monitored by congregation elders to how you dress, the length of you hair your attendance, who you are associating with, what are you doing in your private social life etc.. you will most likely going to hear about people who were somehow associated with the organization have committed suicide.

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  Vidiot

  Being told you have to "hate the things of This World".

  Which is damn near impossible if you have anything resembling hobbies, interests, or pastimes.
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  Gorby has to admit

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for the first time in my life, i have to admit that the world is rapidly deteriorating.

  first i saw a decline in democracy worldwide.

  elections were a tough battle every time, unfair too.

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  Vidiot

  Try to stay positive, folks.

  The last thing any of us need is to feel tempted to go back to the WT.
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  How many of you would actually believe a child abuser would let his crime be watched by minimum two witnesses?

  by Thinkforyourself in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  in many closed religious cults, sects or globally widely spread religions, sexual abuse on big scale is revealed and covered up by the religious authorities.

  in the jw, the culture is to deal with these matters within the org itself, and the rule is, "no crime can be proven without the presentation of at least two witnesses".

  men made the rules, men commit these crimes and men defend them and even forse these children to meet and talk to their abusers.

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  Vidiot

  The question of whether or not an offender would abuse his victim in front of a witness is somewhat academic...

  ...by the 1980s, internal complaints about the problem had reached a point wherein the WTS was compelled to slightly revise the two-witness rule to to classify the first accusing victim as "witness #1" and a second accusing victim as "witness #2", so an actual third-party eyewitness to a single offense was no longer deemed necessary (in no small part because poorly-informed loyalists already had difficulty believing that something like this could even happen, so extreme skepticism amongst elder bodies was the norm, rather than the exception).

  Nevertheless, the Org has held so strongly to their interpretation(s) and application of the two-witness rule, NOT because they want to follow so-called "Biblical" standards, but because they've come to depend on it it as a crucial tool in keeping the nature and full scope of the problem from the rank-and-file (plus a century of internal rhetoric and propaganda has made capitulating to any outside pressure an absolute anathema).

  Yes, they want to avoid negative publicity, lawsuits, and the expenses both incur, but even more so, the endemic and institutionalized nature of the problem thoroughly undermines their claim of being "God's Exclusive Earthly Organization" like almost nothing else*...

  ...because, let's face it... despite what some may claim, actually being an active, dutiful JW isn't really all that enjoyable... so without that particular carrot/stick combo, there's virtually zero real incentive for the average rank-and-filer to actually stay.

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  *Not to mention that, in a huge dollop of irony, the staunch application of their previously mentioned "Biblical" standards are arguably making the problem worse...

  ...and therefore casting doubt on said standards' efficacy and legitimacy, which is pure poison for any organization who derives their authority from the Bible.
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  I am starting to think there is more to these riots than just some meets the eye.

  by phoenixrising in

  1. social
  2. current

  the fake news wants us to believe that one cop who murdered one person sparked all this.

  i am seeing this crap in london and around the world.

  this does not make any sense.

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  Vidiot

  More to the riots than meets the eye?

  Agreed.

  The protesters have clearly been infiltrated by Decepticons.

  
  
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  What's Your Favorite Internet Site?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  since my homepage is drudge report, i'd have to say that the drudge report is what i often check during the day.. of course, this site is clearly one of my favs..

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  Vidiot

  Cracked.com
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  Watchtower August 2020 Are they introducing new light?

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the latest watchtower is now out and they make this statement -.

  7 during the thousand year rule of christ, all of jehovah’s earthly children will have to make changes to please him.

  so all of them will have true fellow feeling as they help the resurrected ones to combat sinful tendencies and to live by jehovah’s standards.

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  Vidiot

  This idea isn't really all that new.

  As a kid, my then-elder Dad once told me that in the New System, everybody - Armageddon survivors and resurrectees - would essentially have to straighten up...

  ...or else (paraphrasing, but that's the gist).
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  Breaking: Beards in The Watchtower

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the latest issue of the watchtower shows a man with a beard praying.. .

  i fully expected to see him 'progress' to clean-shaven in the following pictures, but instead he is still bearded when 'applying bible principles'.. .

  i then realized that he was already featured on the cover itself.. .

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  Vidiot

  Hmph.

  Ten bucks says this is just another tug on the leash.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses adaptation of child safeguarding practices and guidance to local circumstances in various countries - Thesis

  by AFRIKANMAN in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  posted purely for your information etc .

  a thesis by harvinder singh.

  https://www.academia.edu/37425975/how_have_the_jehovahs_witnesses_adapted_child_safeguarding_practices_and_guidance_to_local_circumstances_in_the_united_states_of_america_england_and_australia?email_work_card=title.

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  Vidiot

  Of course, the real reason the Org is resisting is because the nature of the needed reforms cannot help but contribute further to public exposure - and worse, tacit admission of guilt - with regards to the problem (not to mention the fact that it's become endemic and institutionalized specifically as a result of their much-vaunted "Biblical" methods)...

  ...which, in turn, further undermines their fictional status as "God's Exclusive Earthly Organization" like almost nothing else...

  ...and thusly undermines the only real incentive for the membership to even stay.