Posts by Vidiot

well known norway elder and watchtower doctrine apologist, (rolf furuli) was disfellowshipped a few days ago for the crime of expressing opinions contrary to some watchtower dictates.. like wt leadership in the past, they have no problem eating their own..

Vidiot

@ slimboyfat...

1914 is too integral a component in their chronology, ideology, and eschatology to be dropped. They simply can’t, it’s a sacred cow... go back far enough and everything hinges on it*.

The overlapping generation thing should be all the proof you need, ‘cause there’s just no fucking way they’d come up with something that weird unless they absolutely had to.

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*Remember, Fred Franz left no protege, and Ted Jaracz purged out all the creative and outside-the-box thinkers, so there’s no one left with enough narrative creativity to properly overhaul the script... they’re stuck with it.

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Rolf Furuli Disfellowshipped Last Week

by Sea Breeze in

well known norway elder and watchtower doctrine apologist, (rolf furuli) was disfellowshipped a few days ago for the crime of expressing opinions contrary to some watchtower dictates.. like wt leadership in the past, they have no problem eating their own..

Vidiot

Beth Sarim - “...I do believe the GB have painted themselves into a corner with the 2013 July understanding of the 'faithful slave'...”

Let’s be honest.

These days, all they do is paint themselves into corners.

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Some notes on early Christianity - its evolution and "sacred text"

by Half banana in

in the scope of this site, it’s not possible to go too deeply into historical research in a single post but we can give the flavour of things formerly hidden from us when we were jws.. like most things, christianity evolved.. it has unseen roots but many visible branches, 40,000 is the often quoted number!

there never was a moment when it arrived fully formed in the middle of the first century.

its roots in folk mysteries were deliberately concealed by fourth and fifth century christian leaders.

Vidiot

Ironic that natural selection would give rise to a species which becomes so specifically adapted to its environment that the denial of natural selection’s existence becomes a vital component to its continued survival in said environment.

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Watchtower Greek where the mumbo meets the jumbo

by Terry in

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take a look at this photo of a now long extinct publication!ain't she a beauty?.

around 1976 i got the wild idea i'd like to learn greek.

gosh - just look at the gorgeous purple book up there!

Vidiot

You guys wanna hear something funny?

For a long time as a kid, I was under the mistaken impression that the originals of the Bible books actually existed in museums or libraries somewhere, that the WT folks had access to them and created the NWT from them, and that the scholars of “false religion” had dishonestly mistranslated their versions on purpose to avoid worshipping Jehovah or going door-to-door.

Seriously.

Imagine my disappointment when my elder father admitted to me that this wasn’t quite the case, and that obedient JWs simply had faith that the NWT was more correct.

On a related note, I suspect that, on some level, certain JWs have an intrinsic need to trust some kind of authority figure.

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"The Project" posted a video about the National Redress Scheme and JWs

by AndersonsInfo in

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=612947649624670.

the project posted a video to playlist feature stories.. .

l10 tthrsponsmorsldlged · .

Vidiot

Maybe the Org is reluctant to sign up because they’re scared they’ll get tapped dry.

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J.W's and " but that is Pagan !".

by Phizzy in

there have been a number of threads touching on this before, leolaia for one, back in the day when we had many an erudite poster, showed the pagan origins of many things, including the passover , and by extension, the jw " memorial".. what prompted my thought on this was a conversation i had the other day with a young lady, never a jw, who said the jw stance on birthday celebrations, was groundless and cruel.. i thought later that jw's do a " pick and mix " as usual, as they do with so many other things, on what they condemn as "pagan" and what they accept and practice.. the institution of marriage itself is pagan, marriages were performed long before the bible was written, and long before the nation of israel was formed.

yet jw's perform marriages, use the veil, and the ring, all pagan.

the names of the days of the week, the months of the year, all pagan.. i guess you guys can think of many more things ?

Vidiot

Go back far enough in (actual) human history, and pretty much everything has “pagan” origins.

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Cults and Their Charismatic Leaders Part 1

by 1234 in

people know of many cult leaders’ and their charismatic personalities, with their fringe beliefs and lust for power and how they have inspired hundreds to follow their unconventional philosophies — with often-tragic results.

charles manson, david koresh, jim jones, bhagwan shree rajneesh and others have gained international notoriety for exposing the dark side of humanity.. however what about the cults that went main stream.

i guess we could throw in jesus and even adolf hitler.

Vidiot

Two big related problems the Org has...

a) ...Fred Franz never left any kind of protege before he kicked the bucket, and...

b) ...Ted Jaracz used 9-11 to purge out the majority of creative types and out-of-the-box thinkers...

...the kinds of people that, IMO, the WTS needed the most in order to effectively bring the WT narrative into the 21st century.