Posts by Vidiot

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AVOID ! : upcoming cult apologists conference

by yalbmert99 in

fyi:.

the 16-18 of june 2022 in quebec city, laval university, canada, there will be a conference organized by cult apologists cesnur (european) and info-cult/info-sectes (canadian).

some famous cult apologists (massimo introvigne) will be there and some jw mid range leader from ontario david docksteader too.

Vidiot

Anyone remember what I said about the WTS increasingly doing everything it can to survive...

...(because "God's Exclusive Earthly Organization" simply cannot be permitted to not survive; otherwise it wouldn't be "God's Exclusive Earthly Organization", would it?)...

...and that real problems could and would arise when said survival measures - ultimately - can't help but undermine that very organizational claim?

I would count soliciting assistance from a group known specifically for its association with explicitly harmful (not to mention "false") religions as one such measure.

Just how anxious/desperate is the WT leadership starting to feel?

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Is there ANY possibility at all that the WatchTower and the Governing Body has the TRUTH? (You're about to find out)

by Terry in

jw
friends

in my opinion, having been a jehovah's witness for twenty years as well as being an ex-jw for forty-three years,is that the following talk as given by peter gregerson, emphatically removes any shadow of a doubt aboutwhether the claim for the faithful slave has any merit whatsoever.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytcj6smffbk&t=3145s.

note: (references to the publication the finished mystery are given.

you can read the entire book here:https://www.gutenberg.org/files/46016/46016-pdf.pdf.

Vidiot

I remember when my brain started deconstructing WT ideology and theology (whether I wanted it to or not).

It ain't much of a stretch to go from "they had it once but lost it" to "they probably never had it".

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The JW's greatest dogma...

by BoogerMan in

....that god almighty/jesus personally selected j.f.

rutherford & wtbts inc. as a front for worldwide christianity, is an affront to worldwide christians.. the adage, “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” was made for such spurious assertions.. as with jw's who claim, "jehovah answered my prayer for......," both claims rely on total credulity, and zero evidence of divine intervention.

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Vidiot

Phizzy - "... Rutherford and Co disgustingly supported the First World War, Rutherford urging the purchase of War Bonds, no way were they neutral Conscientious Objectors... that totally discredited dogma is what the Org relies upon..."

Sometimes I suspect that the claim of exclusive divine favor was Rutherford and Co. doubling-down when they were faced with compelling arguments to the contrary...

..."Not only are we a legitimate religion, we're the only legitimate religion!!!"

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The JW's greatest dogma...

by BoogerMan in

....that god almighty/jesus personally selected j.f.

rutherford & wtbts inc. as a front for worldwide christianity, is an affront to worldwide christians.. the adage, “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” was made for such spurious assertions.. as with jw's who claim, "jehovah answered my prayer for......," both claims rely on total credulity, and zero evidence of divine intervention.

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Vidiot

Boogerman - "The JW's greatest dogma... that God Almighty/Jesus personally selected J.F. Rutherford & WTBTS Inc..."

Almost, but not quite.

The WT's "greatest dogma" is that they are God's Exclusive Earthly Organization. The claim of being chosen by God and Jesus was made in service to that claim.

Really, every decision they make...

...every decision...

...is done so with the goal of shoring up that fiction.

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Prediction of how Watchtower going to be in 5 Years.

by Foolednomore in

jw
friends

i can see it that watchtower will become an online/tv based group with just con-vention hall$.. field service would be letter writing and phone preaching, door to door is done.. watchtower will have pay to view programs and still ask for donations after all that.. zoom meetings are here to stay.

kingdumb halls will be sold off except for con-vention venues, or need for new ones$.. df'ing will continue.

the craziness will continue.

Vidiot

fooled - ''I would love to see in my life time Watchtower crash and burn. But I'll take the next best thing...."

Agreed.

As schadenfreude-y as it might be, better to slowly and ignominiously wither away to (almost) nothing.

Much harder to bounce back from that.

Just my opinion.

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What sort of people were the JW's who went to prison? Government study tells all

by Terry in

jw
friends

do you feel a draft?

(jw’s did-in the 1960s)i thought you might find it interesting to review exactly what the u.s. government thought, studied, and wrote about people of conscience during the vietnam war.what follows comes from official records…more than half of the 27 million men eligible for the draft during the vietnam war were deferred, exempted, or disqualified.

(cortright, david (2008).

Vidiot

Terry - "What sort of people were the JW's who went to prison?"

also Terry - "useful idiots"

Not that you're wrong, but...

...don't be so hard on yourself.

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NEW LIGHT (The GB offers a contract guarantee of Armageddon)

by Terry in

jw
friends

the mangroves’ new light.

(a short story).

“oh, christ—just what i needed this morning—those jehovah people in the neighborhood!”.

Vidiot

Sounds almost like the "nightmare stage" of wishful thinking.

Which reminds me...

...when I've had a drink or three, I'm always tempted to outline a near-future scenario wherein the WT leadership has painted themselves so tightly into an ideological, financial, and legal corner that they deliberately try and provoke "Satan's World" into attacking them (completely ignoring the bit about "Babylon the Great" getting attacked first) in the desperate hope that Jehovah will then be compelled to step in and save their collective asses at the last moment...

...in no small part because if it doesn't happen, they (like all other authoritarian regimes in the past) would rather the Org crash-and-burn if it can't continue the way it has.

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Prediction of how Watchtower going to be in 5 Years.

by Foolednomore in

jw
friends

i can see it that watchtower will become an online/tv based group with just con-vention hall$.. field service would be letter writing and phone preaching, door to door is done.. watchtower will have pay to view programs and still ask for donations after all that.. zoom meetings are here to stay.

kingdumb halls will be sold off except for con-vention venues, or need for new ones$.. df'ing will continue.

the craziness will continue.

Vidiot

Foolednomore - "Prediction of how Watchtower going to be in 5 years..."

Caught between having to do whatever they can to ensure the WTS's continued survival and trying to shore up the fiction of "God's Exclusive Earthly Organization" amongst the R&F...

...they're already looking pretty fucking weird.

In five years, expect that to be dialed up to 11.

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A JW prophecy VISIBLY failing!

by BoogerMan in

w85 7/1 p. 21 par.

16 - an increasing “great crowd...out of all nations” are flocking to the org jehovah’s worship.

the brooklyn pharisees assured the sheeple for decades that isaiah 2:2, micah 4:1-3, & haggai 2:7 were prophetically.

Vidiot

nicolau - "...they can spin anything any way they want. They can turn falling numbers into proof of Jehobabobs blessings if they want to."

"Everything is proof we're right! Even the stuff that contradicts the other stuff!!!"

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Who do you think the DEMONS are?

by raymond frantz in

the watchtower teaches that the demons are the angels that came down here on earth right before the flood but research shows otherwise in this video i consider the identity of demons.if you never looked in this subject you will find this interesting ,let me know what you think.

https://youtu.be/m1zfyhmlyx0.

Vidiot

"...Ladies..."