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  Being embarrassed by a JW when you were a JW

  by punkofnice in

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  2. experiences

  i was out on the ministry(tm) in the 1980's when i was pie-on-earring.

  i was only a lowly publisher(tm) being coached by a rather odd elder(tm).. one of the publications(tm) had recently mentioned japan and the growth(tm) of jws there.. the elder(tm), brother(tm) i was with offered the magazines(tm) to the householder(tm).. then he stated, 'there are (gave the reported numbers at the time.

  i can't remember the number he stated), jehovah's witnesses(tm) in japan.'.

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  Lost count.

  Eventually, I learned to just roll my eyes and move on.
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  What happened to Catholic church bashing.

  by Hellothere in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i remember back in the 80s almost every awake and watchtower magazine, think all, hade an article about how bad and evil catholic church was.

  what happened to all the bashing?

  was it because people in catholic countries got offended?

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  Ten bucks says they’re scared of the Vatican lawyers.
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  Information Theory and the Demise of Darwinism

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at a recent xjw conference, software engineer fred williams spoke on the subject of information that is found in nature.

  it is a fascinating topic.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvpveyf5cic .

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  Sea Breeze - “… At a recent XJW conference, software engineer Fred Williams spoke on the subject of Information that is found in nature...”

  We all view the world around us through the lenses of our own experience.

  A software engineer will, quite naturally, see data wherever he looks.
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  Are JWs breaking the law?

  by Indoubtbigtime in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  everytime a publisher moves congregations they have a confidential letter of introduction sent from one body of elders to the other .

  this letter contains some very very sensitive information like if they had sexual problems or mental health problems or if they self harmed etc.

  most people don’t know but they can request or insist on seeing this information through a freedom of information request .

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  I kept moving around without telling ‘em, so I myself haven’t a goddamn clue where my records are. 😁
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  2022 WTS Numbers

  by blondie in

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  2. friends

  2022 grand totals.

  branches of jehovah’s witnesses: 86. .

  number of lands reporting: 239. .

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  Vidiot

  Interesting…

  …we seem to have reached a point where almost no one here posts a positive - from the Org’s POV - forecast for its current or future status…

  …and the two or three who do never seem to give any particularly compelling arguments as to why.

  The general consensus really does seem to be that the WTS’s future does not look bright.

  I could be wrong.
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  for all or all time?

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  pasting this page for hebrews 10:10 https://biblehub.com/parallel/hebrews/10-10.htm.

  it speaks of jesus sacrifice for all ( as in all peoples ) or is it for all time?

  ( one time only).

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  For all time. Always.
  
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  Can a Church Lie Intentionally? Yes.

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a very recent case i mentioned briefly in another thread might be of interest to many here.

  a mormon found through the internet that her church leadership had deliberately misled members regarding the origin of the book of mormon and engaged in historical revisioning.

  she sued for damages for the lifelong tithing she had been deceived into giving.

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  If you’re dishonest in your efforts to claim the moral high ground, you automatically forfeit the moral high ground.
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  How did you find Jehovah's Witness meetings?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i personally have only attended a handful of meetings at kingdom halls.

  i did not enjoy any of them nor was i impressed by anything that was conveyed.

  perhaps others did not find them boring as i did.. nadia viotto has this to say about her experience.

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  The last one I took my 90-plus-year-old mom to, the Governing-Body-WT-Organization cheerleading felt like it’d been dialed up to 11.
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  Has anyone else felt like this ?

  by Riley in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  about three years ago , there was a son of an elder in my hall ( and i use the term " my hall " in a very loose term ) who committed suicide.

  the guy was real asshole but not one deserves something like that.

  i read his sons obit online.

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  They used to condemn suicide as self-murder, until they - allegedly - finally started acknowledging that you can’t always fully understand or judge any individual’s mental or emotional state.

  Probably started hearing rumours that too many of the more vulnerable rank-and-filers might be suffering suicidal depression explicitly due to the particulars of the WT ideology, lifestyle, and belief system, and wanted to avoid any blowback.
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  Garbage in equals Garbage Out: A study in computer science as applied to JW doctrine

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1h4dynwkbyakgdibbwlibwtf2ruzpewcd5ipupvo-edm/edit?usp=sharing.

  garbage in / garbage outthere is a saying about errors in computer science: garbage in / garbage outin computer science, garbage in, garbage out is the concept that flawed, or nonsense input data produces nonsense output.

  rubbish in, rubbish out is an alternate wording.

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  Vidiot

  I remember in COC how Ray Franz was bothered by the fact that even though the GB technically paid lip service to their own fallibility…

  …they still - for all intents and purposes - required the membership to act as though they were infallible.