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  Secret Elders Book? Bwahahaha!

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i remember a couple of decades ago when the internet was relatively young and the wt was at war with it, that they were battling to keep the pay attention book secret, commencing legal action against anyone who published it online (and of course, trying to out anyone who leaked it).

  i think it was a norwegian skeptics organisation who had it available for download and dared the wt lawyers to come after them.. so i guess the new shepherd the flock book came out to try and put the genie back in the bottle and reassert some air of mystery and secrecy back into the equation.. so i typed jehovah's witnesses secret elder book into google.

  colour me gobsmacked!

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  Vidiot

  Save it for the ladies, Nate. 😏
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  Did The Australian Royal Commission Actually Achieve Anything?

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i've been going through past threads on here during the period i was not very interested in what was going on in jw world.

  the australian royal commission era caused a great deal of excitement and inspired some hope, but did any good come of it?.

  the 2 witness rule in child sexual assault cases still exists, and elders still don't call the police and try to handle things in house.

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  Lee Marsh - “…they will put the org before the needs and rights of the children they are supposed to be caring for.”

  Of course they will.

  They cannot permit anything to threaten the survival of “God’s Exclusive Earthly Organization”…

  …because a genuine threat to its survival too deeply undermines the very premise of “God’s Exclusive Earthly organization”.

  The face-palming irony is that the actions they are taking to - ultimately - defend that premise…

  …are themselves irrevocably undermining the premise.

  
  

  The moment you use under-handed (or heavy-handed) methods in your efforts to claim the moral high ground, you forfeit the moral high ground.
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  Did The Australian Royal Commission Actually Achieve Anything?

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i've been going through past threads on here during the period i was not very interested in what was going on in jw world.

  the australian royal commission era caused a great deal of excitement and inspired some hope, but did any good come of it?.

  the 2 witness rule in child sexual assault cases still exists, and elders still don't call the police and try to handle things in house.

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  Vidiot

  Organizations that crash-and-burn sometimes bounce back, phoenix-like, from the ashes.

  Death by slow attrition, though? Not so much.
  
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  'church elders are told to report any allegations of child sexual abuse to the authorities immediately'

  by was a new boy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  'the spokesperson also said that church elders are told to report any allegations of child sexual abuse to the authorities immediately, even if there is only one complainant.'.

  https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/rebekah-vardy-sexually-abused-child-jehovahs-witnesses/.

  is this true?

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  Vidiot

  I’m …By that logic, there are WT higher-ups who genuinely think that unmarried but consenting adults boning is somehow worse than a father diddling his little girl…

  Or (and I can’t believe this only just occurred to me now)…

  …there've been so many (alleged 🙄) kiddy-diddlers amongst the higher-ups and rank-and-file for so long…

  …that (like with porn), they have to minimize the “sin’s” severity just to avoid having to DF so many offenders that there wouldn’t be enough “qualified brothers” left to keep the Org functioning otherwise.

  I can’t decide which is worse. 😵‍💫
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  Secret Elders Book? Bwahahaha!

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i remember a couple of decades ago when the internet was relatively young and the wt was at war with it, that they were battling to keep the pay attention book secret, commencing legal action against anyone who published it online (and of course, trying to out anyone who leaked it).

  i think it was a norwegian skeptics organisation who had it available for download and dared the wt lawyers to come after them.. so i guess the new shepherd the flock book came out to try and put the genie back in the bottle and reassert some air of mystery and secrecy back into the equation.. so i typed jehovah's witnesses secret elder book into google.

  colour me gobsmacked!

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  Vidiot

  And I still shake my head that churches still refer to congregations as flocks and members as sheep…

  …considering what the ultimate fate of your average sheep tends to be.

  🙄
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  Secret Elders Book? Bwahahaha!

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i remember a couple of decades ago when the internet was relatively young and the wt was at war with it, that they were battling to keep the pay attention book secret, commencing legal action against anyone who published it online (and of course, trying to out anyone who leaked it).

  i think it was a norwegian skeptics organisation who had it available for download and dared the wt lawyers to come after them.. so i guess the new shepherd the flock book came out to try and put the genie back in the bottle and reassert some air of mystery and secrecy back into the equation.. so i typed jehovah's witnesses secret elder book into google.

  colour me gobsmacked!

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  Vidiot

  I remember reading a story posted here about some elderly loyalist sister who was incensed that the ARC even had a copy.

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  Martin Armstrong's latest book, 'The Plot to Seize Russia'

  by was a new boy in

  1. social
  2. current

  the 2015 documentary - 'the forecaster' was basically banned in usa.

  so martin leased a movie theater in cherry hill nj and showed it himself.. 'a german tv station funded the 2015 documentary on me entitled the forecaster.

  because it raised some of these issues back then, the film was banned in the united states as well as switzerland...'.

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  Vidiot

  All hail the Neworldordereptilianuminati!!!

  Deepstate me! Deepstate me! Harder!!!
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  Watchdog reports on investigation into Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Britain

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.gov.uk/government/news/watchdog-reports-on-investigation-into-watch-tower-bible-and-tract-society-of-britain.

  press release.

  watchdog reports on investigation into watch tower bible and tract society of britain.

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  Vidiot

  In fact, when you think about, running a religion like a business is par for the course for a religion started in a country that was, for all intents and purposes, created by businessmen, for businessmen.

  In America, pretty much everything is run like a business; it’s so ingrained, it wouldn’t even occur to them not to; they do it without even realizing.

  Therefore, as I said before, all those actions are on the table…

  …even for religions…

  …because in the US, religions are businesses.
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  Watchdog reports on investigation into Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Britain

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.gov.uk/government/news/watchdog-reports-on-investigation-into-watch-tower-bible-and-tract-society-of-britain.

  press release.

  watchdog reports on investigation into watch tower bible and tract society of britain.

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  Vidiot

  Re. Sea Breeze‘s post…

  Hard to argue with.

  Corporations are, first and foremost, businesses, and all businesses try to maximize profit whilst minimizing deficit.

  Therefore, activities like that will always be on the table, because that is what they are specifically designed to do (as long as they’re not done so egregiously that the exposure spoils it for everyone else).
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  Did The Australian Royal Commission Actually Achieve Anything?

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i've been going through past threads on here during the period i was not very interested in what was going on in jw world.

  the australian royal commission era caused a great deal of excitement and inspired some hope, but did any good come of it?.

  the 2 witness rule in child sexual assault cases still exists, and elders still don't call the police and try to handle things in house.

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  Vidiot

  Exposure.

  Embarassment.

  And their grudging concession to the redress scheme reveals that, when backed into a corner, the Org will show its throat to “Satan’s World” to keep its tax-exemption…

  …strongly suggesting that they really need it.

  And that is useful intel.