this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!
reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.
NotFormer - “It would probably be better for all parties if they did. The mental gymnastics of faking, fading and fence-sitting can't be good for mental health.”
Oh, for sure.
(not that the WT leadership gives a shit about the mental health of faders, fakers, and fence-sitters)
I imagine it’s somewhat like the Dursleys and Harry Potter.
They wanted him gone ‘cause they hated him, but at the same time, they wanted to keep him around so they could make his life miserable.
😏
so everyone knows the “big news” of this past weekend, no more reporting of hours, placements, return visits, etc.
beginning november 1, jws just tick a box indicating whether they “shared in any form of the ministry during the month”.. so there was a brief comment by a redditor that seems like a brief joke “throwaway comment” but after thinking about it….why not?.
the idea is, what is “any form of the ministry”?
There’s another possibility that could’ve factored into this decision…
…more and more average JWs working door-to-door, trolleys, and park tables encounter “apostates” who they can’t defend their faith from (without lying), and/or regular householders who know too much about the Org’s pedo problems, and aren’t shy about it (like back in the day when they were accused of being “false prophets”, only way, way worse 😏).
I think it’s entirely possible that we’ve reached a critical mass of nonmembers who know too many uncomfortable facts and truths, and it’s actually started to have a negative impact on the witnessing work.
Changing up the ministry could be an attempt to insulate the rank-and-file from that.
just a good conversation at home about the hour report change.. we think the change was not impmemented because the gb are such a lovely bunch of old grandpa's having the best in mind for us individuals.. there will be only, and we say only, an organizational reason for it.
a legal reason, to protect jw.org and it's officials and wealth.. next step?
maybe selling more kh and when jw hollywood studio's in rampoo are ready a change to tv subscription.. what do you think?
I totally get why some folks were hoping for the End in ‘75…
…disco, bell-bottoms, and leasure suits?
Jeezus, I’d want to burn it all down, too.
😏
selena accused tony morris of being involved in child abuse and the pimo bethelite who just got kicked out.
let’s see how this rolls out.
They supposedly brought in legal and financial advisors a little while back, who suggested a number of things the Old Guard didn’t like hearing, regardless of whether or not they were things that the Org needed to do to stay solvent.
Ten bucks says a lot of the things they were advised to do involved - for all intents and purposes - mainstream reform.
If they need a supermajority vote to change something significant, and one or two of the Old Guard “nay”, putting one out to pasture before attempting said reforms would have definitely been on the table…
…and I’m not a big believer in coincidence.
just a good conversation at home about the hour report change.. we think the change was not impmemented because the gb are such a lovely bunch of old grandpa's having the best in mind for us individuals.. there will be only, and we say only, an organizational reason for it.
a legal reason, to protect jw.org and it's officials and wealth.. next step?
maybe selling more kh and when jw hollywood studio's in rampoo are ready a change to tv subscription.. what do you think?
So many folks feel so alienated and disenfranchised by a rapidly changing (by their reckoning) modern world…
…it’s no wonder that the deeply religious amongst them latch onto what they see as the only way through the chaos.
with the change to reporting field service and now allowing people to repent during the gt, presumably up until armageddon, i'm assuming that the "hailstones" message is now permanently on hold.
can someone explain this to me; am i understanding this right?.
I always wondered if they’d have the balls to implement the hailstone message in the first place.
so everyone knows the “big news” of this past weekend, no more reporting of hours, placements, return visits, etc.
beginning november 1, jws just tick a box indicating whether they “shared in any form of the ministry during the month”.. so there was a brief comment by a redditor that seems like a brief joke “throwaway comment” but after thinking about it….why not?.
the idea is, what is “any form of the ministry”?
“Growth = God’s Blessing”.
The more publishers, the more they can say they’re blessed.
sometimes things don't come across the way the speaker intended.. years ago there was an ad by the whitegoods company fisher and paykel.
they showed them going to great lengths to get customer feedback on what was important to them.
one customer said that she wanted it to be easy to get her appliances serviced when they broke down.
I didn’t have any really bad experiences as an active JW…
…but the older I got, the more intellectually hamstrung I felt.
It was not a pleasant feeling.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/jehovahs-witnesses-head-to-court-on-abuse-in-care-inquiry-victims-feel-a-kick-in-the-guts/hwjsnshi5vfv7ghjztr63goseu/.
"by bill hickman of rnz.
the new zealand branch of the jehovah’s witnesses is going to court in an attempt to have the church made exempt from the abuse in care inquiry today.. in the high court at wellington, lawyers for the church are seeking a declaration that the church is not responsible for the care of children or vulnerable people in new zealand.. abuse survivor advocate and former church elder shayne mechen said the church was trying to use a technicality to side-step its inclusion in the inquiry.. .
“…Jehovah’s Witnesses’ policy was that parents should not leave their children with elders…”
Since when?
this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!
reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.
TxNVSue2023 - “I knew someday they would have to remove the time reporting because it's unsustainable & unscriptual.”
Unsustainable? Sure.
Unscriptural? Furthest thing from their minds.
They used to use scriptures to back it up.
