this topic i digress about why the watchtower relaxing the rules of disfellowship is essential for its survival.
many things i'm going to say are not my ideas, some are, the point is, i'm condensing everything in a logical and concise way.. the first thing we have to keep in mind is that the wt's main objective in instituting disfellowship has always been not to lose members because of the damage that a dissident could do, or to avoid gaining new members because of the bad reputation of a confessed sinner in the his/her region.
in the end, the more active members, the more money to the coffers.. in this case of disfellowship due to apostasy, to avoid any spark, texts were sought out of context that even prohibited saying "hi".
slimboyfat - “…far more describe themselves as Jehovah’s Witnesses than are claimed as publishers by Watchtower…”
So?
Are they attending?
Are they subscribing to the WT belief system?
Are they supporting the Org financially?
Eight million, or eight…
…all the numbers in the world mean jack shit if the actual problems the WTS is experiencing have nothing to do with the size of its membership.
All hail the Neworldordereptiluminati!!!
heres a business opportunity for someone.. jw clothes.
mens suits etc--with that discrete blue j,worg label inside.
order online..
NotFormer - “What about Sparlock toys?”
Yes, but you’re only allowed to get them with the express purpose of ceremoniously throwing them in the trash. 😏
this topic i digress about why the watchtower relaxing the rules of disfellowship is essential for its survival.
many things i'm going to say are not my ideas, some are, the point is, i'm condensing everything in a logical and concise way.. the first thing we have to keep in mind is that the wt's main objective in instituting disfellowship has always been not to lose members because of the damage that a dissident could do, or to avoid gaining new members because of the bad reputation of a confessed sinner in the his/her region.
in the end, the more active members, the more money to the coffers.. in this case of disfellowship due to apostasy, to avoid any spark, texts were sought out of context that even prohibited saying "hi".
slimboyfat - “…sorry, I do think it is faintly ridiculous to be talking about Watchtower battling for ‘survival’ at this point…”
Like I asked in another thread…
…why would the WT leadership take actions that appear clearly tailored to shore up the Org’s survival…
…if the Org’s survival wasn’t actually at risk?
this topic i digress about why the watchtower relaxing the rules of disfellowship is essential for its survival.
many things i'm going to say are not my ideas, some are, the point is, i'm condensing everything in a logical and concise way.. the first thing we have to keep in mind is that the wt's main objective in instituting disfellowship has always been not to lose members because of the damage that a dissident could do, or to avoid gaining new members because of the bad reputation of a confessed sinner in the his/her region.
in the end, the more active members, the more money to the coffers.. in this case of disfellowship due to apostasy, to avoid any spark, texts were sought out of context that even prohibited saying "hi".
It sounds perfect.
source - march 2021 announcements - - https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5085868283920384/2021-march-147-english-german-announcements-reminders.
this is a sobering reminder of what happened some 40 years ago when raymond franz and others were literally kicked out from the jehovah's witnesses for having pre-arranged private spiritual discussions.lesson: paragraph 7 is another example of the i and t in dr. steven hassan's bite model of the 21st century cult - information and thought control at its best!!!!
"my gosh, there must be a lot of independent meetings these days.
Anony Mous - “I wonder if this is why they stopped the book study meetings…”
No, that was because too many incidents of child abuse were taking place in the bookstudy environment, and their charity-status-slash-tax-exemption ran the risk of coming under review as an indirect result.
To head it off before that could happen, they simply eliminated the environment.
this topic i digress about why the watchtower relaxing the rules of disfellowship is essential for its survival.
many things i'm going to say are not my ideas, some are, the point is, i'm condensing everything in a logical and concise way.. the first thing we have to keep in mind is that the wt's main objective in instituting disfellowship has always been not to lose members because of the damage that a dissident could do, or to avoid gaining new members because of the bad reputation of a confessed sinner in the his/her region.
in the end, the more active members, the more money to the coffers.. in this case of disfellowship due to apostasy, to avoid any spark, texts were sought out of context that even prohibited saying "hi".
@ TheScientist…
“Camouflaged dissent”… I like that.
this topic i digress about why the watchtower relaxing the rules of disfellowship is essential for its survival.
many things i'm going to say are not my ideas, some are, the point is, i'm condensing everything in a logical and concise way.. the first thing we have to keep in mind is that the wt's main objective in instituting disfellowship has always been not to lose members because of the damage that a dissident could do, or to avoid gaining new members because of the bad reputation of a confessed sinner in the his/her region.
in the end, the more active members, the more money to the coffers.. in this case of disfellowship due to apostasy, to avoid any spark, texts were sought out of context that even prohibited saying "hi".
JW GoneBad - “The WTBTS has been in survival mode for quite some time…”
This.
Virtually every action they’ve taken in the past three decades has been reactive…
…defending against threats to its survival, whilst trying to shore up a claim of legitimacy and primacy which, if it had been true, would’ve been all the defense it ever actually needed.
had lunch with a friend, whose a lecturer in the accounting dept.
of one of australia's best universities.
he told me he expects to lose his job at some point in the next 5 years, as the accounting dept, will disappear, as all accounting will be done by ai programs, so why teach it.. if his fears are correct, that means that any profession that involves the mind, may one day face the same future.
Meh.
As long as some dumbass doesn’t name it “Skynet”, we should be fine.
an elder with half a brain (and they must exist 🧐) is going to see the writing on the wall with the way the wt is manoeuvring them into taking the fall over csa cases.
can an elder in good standing step down with no consequences, official or social?.
NotFormer - “…It sounds like the whole org is built around kicking people out; just letting people walk doesn't seem like an option in anyone's eyes…”
Yeah, no way anything like that could ever come back and bite you in the ass…
😏
