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  Were JW Celebrities Ever An Asset To The Organisation?

  by NotFormer in

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  just wondering if the rich celebrities that occasionally were aligned with the wt gave enough to the 'tower to be a worthwhile presence within the organisation?.

  my gut instinct is: "no".

  i imagine that the jackson family gave a fair bit, but it was obviously never enough to buy michael the right to be held as being in good standing.

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  Vidiot

  enoughisenough - “I never understood how celebs could be ‘witnesses’ because witnesses were to be no part of the world, and being a celebrity seemed to me to be as worldly as it got.”

  Very well put.

  The notion always seemed problematic to me for a number of reasons, the least of which being that even the most low-key celebrities seemed to have lives that would get any ordinary rank-and-filer a good dressing-down in the back room for “brazen conduct” or somesuch.

  But what kind of celebrity would even bother to listen to “counsel” from someone who - from their perspective - is a nobody?

  Not to mention that DFing a prominent public figure is not a good look.

  From what we’ve seen, they obviously live more or less as they please, and the Org (uncomfortably, I’m sure) looks the other way, and hopes the membership doesn’t notice too much.

  Which is telling, in and of itself.
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  Where is Tony?

  by Athanasius in

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  on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.

  in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.

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  Vidiot

  He was always an old-school hardliner. I seem to recall him saying “the Governing Body is under attack” not long before he was shown the door.

  It’s pretty clear by now that ousting him removed an obstacle to reform (or, at least, the appearance of it).

  What are the odds that event convinced Two-House he’d been right, that the GB gave in to fear instead of having faith and has now become irrevocably seduced by the Dark Side of the Force “Satan’s World”…

  …and now, in his own mind, he’s “disfellowshipped” them?

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  Where is Tony?

  by Athanasius in

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  on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.

  in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.

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  Vidiot

  Bumped with this:

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1ad79df/gb_member_stephen_lett_is_currently_in_australia/
  

  Yet another GB celebritard going off-script and saying cringey shit.

  I’m tellin’ you guys, Letto the Clown’s next.

  😄
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  JWlite like being a Trekkie. You know it’s fictional

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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  i now view jwlite like the trekkie conventions.

  star trek is fiction and all the fans know this full well.

  but they find it beneficial.

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  Vidiot

  Well…

  ….I’d’ve had a hard time turning down a lapdance from a green-skinned Orion hottie.

  
  

  And I can absolutely imagine Top-Shelf Tony imagining himself as Captain Kirk. 😄
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  How can Babylon the Great be the WORLD of false religion?

  by BoogerMan in

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  (revelation 17:5) “babylon the great, the mother of the prostitutes (plural!

  ) and of the disgusting things of the earth.”.

  btg is spotlighted as being the principal "disgusting thing" which affects christians & christianity, with other lesser "prostitutes" in the background... (revelation 18:4) “get out of her, my people, (christians) if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues.".

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  Vidiot

  At the time, there were a lot more JW lifers still alive, who’d cut their teeth on WT oracle Fred Franz’ Cold-War-centric End Times script … my Dad knew it backwards and forwards (and by extension, so did I). A change-up that radical would have alienated too many of ‘em at once, and the Org was way slower to risk that kind of thing back then.

  Not to mention that Franz left no protege after he kicked the bucket, and most of the really creative thinkers had been purged out of Bethel during the apostate witch-hunts of the late 70s and early 80s… IMO, it’s doubtful they could’ve come up with a plausible alternative “understanding” even if they’d wanted to.

  And, also, I think some of ‘em just liked it… viewing the United Nations as the Wild Beast was something unique to JWs, not to mention useful… since their eschatology didn’t have an actual “Antichrist”-type individual*, the UN could stand in as an actual, tangible villain in their narrative.

  *that the rank-and-file might be tempted to spend endless hours trying to identify, the same way thousands of other American fundagelicals have been doing for the past fucking century. 🙄
  
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  Murder JW Style (True Crime)

  by Tahoe in

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  a home remodeling job in england that went wildly wrong:.

  a builder who bludgeoned his client to death with a hammer in a row over her new extension has been jailed for at least 15 years for murder.. peter norgrove killed sharon gordon at her home on 20 july last year.. her daughter rhian brown said norgrove acted like a "wolf in sheep's clothing" after earning her trust at the church they attended in dudley.. wolverhampton crown court heard he led the jehovah's witness service the same night he killed mrs gordon.. he repeatedly lied to her about the work he was doing, which took 15 months instead of six weeks.. .

  "he didn't have the experience to be doing the work he was doing," miss brown said.. "he took full payment for the extension in advance, which we believe to be more than £30,000.".

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  Vidiot

  Murderers are a rare thing, period.

  It’s why murder is newsworthy… if it were common, it wouldn’t be news.

  Violent crime of any kind has been in a steady decline - per capita - for decades, now… ask any cop.

  There’s a handful of reasons, but in my opinion, the biggest one is that around 1980, we stopped raising kids who were constantly breathing in the fumes from leaded gasoline.

  Seriously.
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  JWlite like being a Trekkie. You know it’s fictional

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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  i now view jwlite like the trekkie conventions.

  star trek is fiction and all the fans know this full well.

  but they find it beneficial.

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  Vidiot

  Anybody in this conversation see the irony in calling the WTS “the Borg”? 😏
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  What you think consequences gonna be for watchtower if they lose the court appeal in Norway?

  by Hellothere in

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  personally i think they gonna realise god's not backing org.

  that idea gonna get even more established in their minds.

  i think the real selling of kingdom hall gonna start then.

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  Vidiot

  Beth Sarim - “…the Sheeple will question if God ever 'backed' this religion.”

  Ten bucks says that by the time that happens, the ones who are even capable of questioning it will probably already be out. 😏
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  What you think consequences gonna be for watchtower if they lose the court appeal in Norway?

  by Hellothere in

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  personally i think they gonna realise god's not backing org.

  that idea gonna get even more established in their minds.

  i think the real selling of kingdom hall gonna start then.

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  Vidiot

  Yup.

  The disproportionally high overreaction displayed toward the slightest hint they might lose their exemption is almost painfully obvious when you know to look for it.

  The only explanation is that over the years, they’ve allowed the Org’s financial solvency to become dependent on it…

  …therefore, the Org’s survival has become dependent on it.
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  What you think consequences gonna be for watchtower if they lose the court appeal in Norway?

  by Hellothere in

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  personally i think they gonna realise god's not backing org.

  that idea gonna get even more established in their minds.

  i think the real selling of kingdom hall gonna start then.

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  Beth Sarim - “Losing charity status means the Borg will have to start paying property tax on their KHs and properties.”

  Yeah, hoser brought that up the other day, and he was spot on.

  Who’d’ve thought their angry, panicked, post-Menlo land grab could ever possibly come back to bite ‘em in the ass?

  😏