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  2024 when will Witnesses admit they are wrong???

  by Witness 007 in

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  1914 generation is long gone.

  1975 was a joke 40 years ago.

  i know of many witnesses still hanging on for armagedon but when will they give up?

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  Vidiot

  Re. stan livedeath‘s post…

  Sure, they can do all of that, and absolutely should, but where does that leave them?

  The kind of mainstream reform you’re describing basically eliminates all the unique things about the WTS that they held up as proof they had “The Truth”…

  …they’d be just another denomination among denominations.

  Take that line of thought to its inevitable conclusion, and the claim of “God’s Exclusive Earthly Organization” becomes essentially nonexistent.

  At that point, where’s the incentive for any rank-and-filer to stay?
  
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  2024 when will Witnesses admit they are wrong???

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  1914 generation is long gone.

  1975 was a joke 40 years ago.

  i know of many witnesses still hanging on for armagedon but when will they give up?

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  Vidiot

  Rattigan - “How are you calling 1914 wrong without replacing it with something that can be right?”

  Is there some rule that says it has to be replaced with anything?
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  Where is Tony?

  by Athanasius in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.

  in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.

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  Vidiot

  The “Jehovah’s Witness Protection Program” in action.

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  Where is Tony?

  by Athanasius in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.

  in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.

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  Vidiot

  Maybe the exposure of their location prompted the WT leadership to move ‘em somewhere else.
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  Can you openly express doubts in the congregation these days?

  by Elena in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know of a lovely old sister who has been a jw for several decades now who openly expresses doubts about jw interpretations.. she does it in such a lovely way and everyone loves her.

  she is such a sweet old soul, makes everyone happy around her.. she has said things like- even if we have got it wrong about this and that i still believe the bible is gods word”.

  she answers up regularly and she goes on ministry groups but like most of us she is definitely jwlite, we don’t really do door to door work anymore.

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  Mikejw - “…I think they may be wrong about 1914 and other things…”

  According to the confidential elders’ manual “Shepherding the Flock of God”, that sentiment would technically constitute “apostasy”.
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  Can you openly express doubts in the congregation these days?

  by Elena in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know of a lovely old sister who has been a jw for several decades now who openly expresses doubts about jw interpretations.. she does it in such a lovely way and everyone loves her.

  she is such a sweet old soul, makes everyone happy around her.. she has said things like- even if we have got it wrong about this and that i still believe the bible is gods word”.

  she answers up regularly and she goes on ministry groups but like most of us she is definitely jwlite, we don’t really do door to door work anymore.

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  Mikejw - “…Otherwise they would need a bigger back room…”

  
  

  “You’re gonna need a bigger back room…”

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  Where is Tony?

  by Athanasius in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.

  in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.

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  Vidiot

  From what I’ve heard, the two houses are not swanky, nor in a luxury environment, and the Org takes ‘em back once the Morrises are gone.

  This isn’t a retirement package.

  It’s an exile.
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  Observations/Questions from forum newbie

  by Obrien in

  1. forum
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  i joined about 5 days ago and have some observations/questions.. does anyone notice the profile update doesn't seem to work?

  i like reading some of the profiles, most accounts don't have them and maybe that's because the tool doesn't function anymore?.

  also i've been noticing a diverse number of subjects which made me think of the categories of people on here.

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  Vidiot

  We kind of already have categories…

  … PIMI, PIMQ, PIMO, POMI, etc…
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  How can Babylon the Great be the WORLD of false religion?

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  (revelation 17:5) “babylon the great, the mother of the prostitutes (plural!

  ) and of the disgusting things of the earth.”.

  btg is spotlighted as being the principal "disgusting thing" which affects christians & christianity, with other lesser "prostitutes" in the background... (revelation 18:4) “get out of her, my people, (christians) if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues.".

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  BoogerMan - “How can Babylon the Great be the WORLD of false religion?”

  ’Cause Freddy Franz said so.

  
  
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  Were JW Celebrities Ever An Asset To The Organisation?

  by NotFormer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just wondering if the rich celebrities that occasionally were aligned with the wt gave enough to the 'tower to be a worthwhile presence within the organisation?.

  my gut instinct is: "no".

  i imagine that the jackson family gave a fair bit, but it was obviously never enough to buy michael the right to be held as being in good standing.

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  enoughisenough - “I never understood how celebs could be ‘witnesses’ because witnesses were to be no part of the world, and being a celebrity seemed to me to be as worldly as it got.”

  Very well put.

  The notion always seemed problematic to me for a number of reasons, the least of which being that even the most low-key celebrities seemed to have lives that would get any ordinary rank-and-filer a good dressing-down in the back room for “brazen conduct” or somesuch.

  But what kind of celebrity would even bother to listen to “counsel” from someone who - from their perspective - is a nobody?

  Not to mention that DFing a prominent public figure is not a good look.

  From what we’ve seen, they obviously live more or less as they please, and the Org (uncomfortably, I’m sure) looks the other way, and hopes the membership doesn’t notice too much.

  Which is telling, in and of itself.