i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.
the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.
i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.
redsetter2 - “…All they expect is absolute obedience and quickly readjusting to changes without question…”
They’re expecting lifelong ultraconservative followers to simply… convert to more liberal views overnight?
With a minimum of fuss?
Yeah, no way that’ll ever go sideways.
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i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.
the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.
i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.
LOL, that’s funny… “lockstep liberalizing”!
“You’re gonna mainstream! And you’re gonna like it!!!”
i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.
the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.
i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.
Hmm. Interesting possibility.
Many people don’t realize this, but genuine moderates have always outnumbered liberals and conservatives in any given social environment, including religions.
It’s why politicians, regardless of official leaning, actually tend to govern in the middle of the road.
There are exceptions who pander or even subscribe to the extremes, obviously, but they tend to leave a real mess for their successors to clean up…
…and the current WT crop was absolutely left with a mess in the wake of the Jaraczic Period.
i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.
the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.
i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.
BTW, Red, I’d asked the following question back on page 2 of this thread, but maybe you missed it…
…how does all this dovetail with the info you dropped here (and I referred to here), where you basically said that the Org plans to - for all intents and purposes - commit seppuku if and when the hammer drops over CSA?
i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.
the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.
i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.
redsetter2 - “…The GB are in panic mode, because this approach has created more ‘apostates’ for them…”
This, I absolutely believe.
Authoritarian regimes always end up creating their own boogeyman, and end up having to deal with the consequences.
redsetter2 - “…they're now trying to crack down on the rise of apostasy, which is more common than sexual immorality within the Org now…”
This is interesting.
If the sheer volume of local needs talks about fornication are any indication, young JWs fuck like rabbits…
…and if the Org thinks there are more closeted apostates (“aclostates”, if you will) than there are rabbits…
😳
i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.
the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.
i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.
Vanderhoven7- “…when the GB discovered the GB is the Faithful Slave…”
I can just imagine how relieved they felt when they realized that…
…the sheer uncertainty before that pivotal moment must have been truly overwhelming.
😏
you heard me correct, this is not a joke, and it is not april fools day!
the asl portion of the governing body updated #2 (march 2024) has been released a bit early and someone caught it.
summary: .
JW GoneBad - “…Back in the day, say the 80s & 90s the elders would have numerous meetings with those who were in trouble. The thinking was to reach & readjust such ones. Then the hammer came down from HQs telling elders that we had better things to do than to continually meet with wayward ones. We were told to be men & drop the ax so to speak & disfellowship…”
Sounds like either cutting off your nose to spite your face…
…or another tug on the leash.
you heard me correct, this is not a joke, and it is not april fools day!
the asl portion of the governing body updated #2 (march 2024) has been released a bit early and someone caught it.
summary: .
LeeMerk - “…I had a conversation with a branch overseer from a foreign country one time who said something interesting in response to a smart alec and negative remark I made about Ray Franz once. He said, ‘I knew Ray Franz and liked him. He may have been right about some things but too far ahead’...”
I get that, but you know what’s weird?
Whenever I hear sentiments like that, it always reminds me of the museum date scene in Some Kind of Wonderful.
Seriously.
IMDB quotes Amanda’s confession… “I'd rather be with someone for the wrong reasons then be alone for the right ones” (paraphrasing, but not much)…
…but Kieth’s simple response is what resonated with me…
…“I’d rather be right”.
It wasn’t an ego or knowitall thing… it was an “I’d rather stand alone for the right reasons than live a lie just to be conditionally accepted” thing.
I never forgot it.
(Interestingly, that IMDB quote entry doesn’t include Kieth’s response. I don’t know why.)
https://peticaopublica.com.br/pview.aspx?pi=br137007.
petition against ostracism practiced by jehovah's witnesses.
public petition: against ostracism practiced by jehovah's witnesses.
Interesting…
…two days in, and no response.
you heard me correct, this is not a joke, and it is not april fools day!
the asl portion of the governing body updated #2 (march 2024) has been released a bit early and someone caught it.
summary: .
I wouldn’t say that.
When I first started fading , I’d already come to realize that evolution had to, in fact, be true (for a number of reasons, actually)…
…and I inevitably found myself asking, “Gosh, if the WT is wrong about something like that, WTF else are they wrong about???”
And here I am, now.
So look at it this way…
…more and more of our arguments, allegations, and assertions are being proven right, often simply by the actions the Org has taken.
That won’t be lost on any of the rank-and-file who still have half a brain…
…which can’t help but foster unspoken questions like, “Gosh, if ‘apostates’ were right about this, that, and the other thing, WTF else are they right about???”
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